spain is a shit country, correct?

What progress?

Looking at it from any perspective we've made very little of any progress save technological. In the end we are still Ina system of Overlords and Underlords.

Just the overlord is swapped out every now and again.

intellectual progress

rip mans

wow people have power nothing has changed

he was deliverin that good shit

Very little has.

capitalism is different than other forms of society

But the Roman Catholic Church was the foremost sponsor of intellectual progress before the Protestant Revolution.

It wasn't bleak.

The medieval period wasn't devoid of intellectual progress.

This is a modernist myth.

not devoid but it wasn't great

there wasn't a capitalist impetus for progress

The Renaissance had nothing to do with Protestantism also.

that's bs

It was Byzantine scholars fleeing the Ottomans.

The things we know have been known, is just now we like to name and categorize them with fancy titles.

renaissance caused protestantism

How?

protestantism is the religious manifestation of the renaissance

How though?

the values of the renaissance are reflected in protestantism

Which values?

it's more humanist than catholicism

more egalitarian

So we're just going to ignore gnostics, Arians, Hussites, and Albigensians.

The Protestant Revolution was not unprecedented.

That is completely ahistorical.

ik

Humanism is materialistic and barbarian.

Maybe that's why Germans liked it so much.

Are you against seeing value in your fellow man?

there's also the jesuits, which i believe were part of the counter-reformation

they have been hugely important to science and philosophy

The counter-reformation was almost as bad as the reformation.

The Church debased itself in my opinion.

but it was corrupt

debasement non-unique