ah yeah

Sorry

Memes are important

Not in the way you're thinking

I mean memes like the meme of white privilege

U.K Conservatives are no where close to conservative

Wrong

The overton window in the U.K makes Lefty's look conservative

You misunderstand what a conservative is

A conservative doesn't want to rebel against the establishment

He wants to keep it going

European conservative in that they don't want change

Exactly, the modern establishment is social justice

So the conservatives defend it

https://arktos.com/people/guillaume-faye/

hot take

@Snakeisninja gay

That's why conservativism is insufficient

Social conservatism calls for pre-sjw social systems

Not current preservation

It presumes that maintaining the status quo is always good

Eurosceptic populists need to take over the whole thing

with their indecisiveness

Eurosceptic Populism better win

I think we assumed conservative would always refer to a certain old school right wing style of governence

I did

We've past that point now

There's no right wing left to preserve. A right wing must be created from scratch

I mean th issue is that just because something is labeled X doesnt mean it adheres to X

The best government is the one that does nothing, doesn't mettle in your life, and only defends your freedom and nation

You can essentially have a conservative party that is beyond left wing

This right wing will not have any support from traditional institutions

It will be rebellious

minarchism gang @campodin

Generally speaking the idea of conservatism is weak because it ceases to push, and rather because it has the same principles and philosophicla foundation as the left (in many cases) it will constantly slip

which is what we observe

Yes, @Bogatyr Bogumir gets it

I mean a thought leader doesn't think in terms of maintaining gains

He's always pushing forward

Like the Left