Message from @21tagtmeiern
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Who cares if it's criminals
Stop Being xenophobic!!!
i'm not like a derridean on immigration
R A C I S T
i don't think illegal immigration is good
I S L A M A P H O B E
i just don't think illegal immigrants should be executed
also cosmopolitan open borders and leaving your door open are different
Violent ones
In principal it's the same
even if unconditional acceptance requires taht, that's not neccessarily open borders
Legal migrants that use welfare should be denied citizenship
that's pretty capitalist
Welfare should be removed in general tbh
reducing people to net gain/loss to the economy has no ethical backing
welfare helps keep people alive
that's inherently good
It makes people lazy
Working hard is superior morally than just being handed a way to survive
Poorly-implemented welfare incentivizes people not to leave welfare.
that's bad
sure
And guess what? Welfare recipients vote for more welfare.
but being handed a way to survive is cool
humanity's at that stage
I'd rather have job programs
Replace welfare with job programs
If they can, and refuse the opportunity to work, they should not expect Societies or the governments help
A thirteen year old child. How can feminists explain this one now?
yeah. jobs programs can be good. The bigger problem with that today, though, is that public works like in FDR days were less specialized fields than they are today
i think that a much higher percentage of workers in construction today are expected to have operational competence in heavy machinery and modern construction techniques
not to mention that if big projects are attempted in jobs programs with untrained labor, i think today society would not tolerate human lives being lost for a project like we allowed for example during the construction of the hoover dam
Hi
@otterlycorrect i'm trying
human beings have inherent value, however illegally immigrating can be considered an invasion much like entering someones home without permission. In any normal world you are permitted to shoot this person or persons without question, even if the door was left wide open for days on end. There are some actions that, when commited, forefit your right to life, such as assault or invasion etc. as you are putting the lives of others into question. You are as such permitted to stop the invasion be it one or many people. Of course this requires actually passing the borderor getting within the buffer zone of a border which isnt usually even that long.
And honestly job programs are superior to welfare for anyone that can work. This has been proven over and over again.
You do not need to task untrained labour with difficult jobs, finishing is not a difficult job and only requires nails and mudding in the most basic sense. Dry-wallers, and floor setters.
These jobs would end up with no loss of life even if done poorly. If done poorly you just need to do it again, and if somebody is so bad at existing that they are unable to do even basic finishing then they are likely unskilled, in which case if they aren't a citizen, you should kick them out, and if they are a citizen then... Well... Sucks to be them. The government tried and tried to help.
Throwing money at problems does not work. We know this.
import all of mexico