Message from @Draco

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2018-10-23 17:47:29 UTC  

So, Marxists cannot be trusted?

2018-10-23 17:48:24 UTC  

Seems like you're trying to find ways to call us disengenuous more than you are trying to meet me where I'm at

2018-10-23 17:48:36 UTC  

Which is uncool bro

2018-10-23 17:48:59 UTC  

Like I was having a normal conversation

2018-10-23 17:49:34 UTC  

I cannot fathom that. You said that equality is not a goal for Marxists. But then say that they pushed it as a slogan. That is not disingenuous?

2018-10-23 17:50:40 UTC  

You said it yourself, equality in some respect will be a result of Marxism

2018-10-23 17:50:50 UTC  

you cant exactly have a normal conversation with someone who unironically believes all this and doesnt see behind the curtains

2018-10-23 17:51:03 UTC  

and refuses to see all the results this has produced, which is mass death for communism and retarded bitches for feminism

2018-10-23 17:51:13 UTC  

Er, of communism

2018-10-23 17:51:18 UTC  

Do you think pushing something as a slogan though you don't believe in it is untrustworthy?

2018-10-23 17:51:28 UTC  

Because I think it is

2018-10-23 17:51:33 UTC  

Hold up

2018-10-23 17:53:20 UTC  

I see the source of the miscommunication

2018-10-23 17:53:52 UTC  

this theory of this flying suit sounds fantastic
-But Enigmatic, everyone who has tried to fly with that suit has fell and died
that wasnt the real flying suit

2018-10-23 17:54:15 UTC  

That is what I am talking about

2018-10-23 17:54:15 UTC  

I have stubbornly said equality in all circumstances when I should have made clear that I meant the accusation of absolute equality was what I was arguing against, the argument people like JBP present as the stance of Marxism

2018-10-23 17:54:18 UTC  

This is my bad

2018-10-23 17:54:48 UTC  

equality is trying to go against nature, you dont do that

2018-10-23 17:54:55 UTC  

that never ends well

2018-10-23 17:54:56 UTC  

😩

2018-10-23 17:54:58 UTC  

Jordan Peterson also does not say that about Marxism. Cuck Philosophy, I think he was who did that, strawmanned him by taking a quote of him out of context

2018-10-23 17:55:35 UTC  

I did not come to this conclusion from Cuck Philosophy's video, I do watch Jordan himself by himself

2018-10-23 17:55:58 UTC  

you stalk jordan peterson

2018-10-23 17:56:07 UTC  

In the Joe Rogan podcast, Peterson made clear that he was talking about class distinction

2018-10-23 17:56:21 UTC  

joe rogan, jordan peterson
top kek

2018-10-23 17:56:23 UTC  

And on his numerous lectures

2018-10-23 17:56:46 UTC  

What is your position on philosophical idealism?

2018-10-23 17:56:48 UTC  

peterson like everyone else, avoids talking about the root of all problems

2018-10-23 17:56:58 UTC  

usual gatekeeper

2018-10-23 17:57:26 UTC  

Me. I am an idealist

2018-10-23 17:57:30 UTC  

Ah

2018-10-23 17:57:35 UTC  

I see

2018-10-23 17:58:01 UTC  

Well, why don't you tell me about your politics?

2018-10-23 17:58:34 UTC  

Well, I would find myself on Right, I guess. Maybe far Right. Though I don't subscribe to many Right Wing ideas

2018-10-23 17:58:57 UTC  

Okay, so why idealism?

2018-10-23 17:59:30 UTC  

"equality" if anything is based around bringing equality it can only bring people down. Generally there are places you can reduce disadvantage, such as healthcare. But true equality eh. I dont see that happening. Either way what is going on

2018-10-23 18:00:40 UTC  

Because materialism does not explain mind, and Dualism fails to explain Chalmer's Problem

2018-10-23 18:00:43 UTC  

Originally I was stating that Marxism is not about equality, or rather communism. Because as you said, at most equality can only be gained in *some* respect or inequality can only be reduced to some minimums

2018-10-23 18:01:20 UTC  

Materialism in terms of physicalism can explain mind, I would actually say idealism just shifts the question of the mind

2018-10-23 18:01:40 UTC  

marxism isnt about equality?

2018-10-23 18:01:40 UTC  

It cannot. For it to explain that, it would require to explain qualia