Message from @Draco
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So, Marxists cannot be trusted?
Seems like you're trying to find ways to call us disengenuous more than you are trying to meet me where I'm at
Which is uncool bro
Like I was having a normal conversation
I cannot fathom that. You said that equality is not a goal for Marxists. But then say that they pushed it as a slogan. That is not disingenuous?
You said it yourself, equality in some respect will be a result of Marxism
you cant exactly have a normal conversation with someone who unironically believes all this and doesnt see behind the curtains
and refuses to see all the results this has produced, which is mass death for communism and retarded bitches for feminism
Er, of communism
Do you think pushing something as a slogan though you don't believe in it is untrustworthy?
Because I think it is
Hold up
I see the source of the miscommunication
this theory of this flying suit sounds fantastic
-But Enigmatic, everyone who has tried to fly with that suit has fell and died
that wasnt the real flying suit
That is what I am talking about
I have stubbornly said equality in all circumstances when I should have made clear that I meant the accusation of absolute equality was what I was arguing against, the argument people like JBP present as the stance of Marxism
This is my bad
equality is trying to go against nature, you dont do that
that never ends well
😩
Jordan Peterson also does not say that about Marxism. Cuck Philosophy, I think he was who did that, strawmanned him by taking a quote of him out of context
I did not come to this conclusion from Cuck Philosophy's video, I do watch Jordan himself by himself
you stalk jordan peterson
In the Joe Rogan podcast, Peterson made clear that he was talking about class distinction
joe rogan, jordan peterson
top kek
And on his numerous lectures
What is your position on philosophical idealism?
peterson like everyone else, avoids talking about the root of all problems
usual gatekeeper
Me. I am an idealist
Ah
I see
Well, why don't you tell me about your politics?
Well, I would find myself on Right, I guess. Maybe far Right. Though I don't subscribe to many Right Wing ideas
Okay, so why idealism?
"equality" if anything is based around bringing equality it can only bring people down. Generally there are places you can reduce disadvantage, such as healthcare. But true equality eh. I dont see that happening. Either way what is going on
Because materialism does not explain mind, and Dualism fails to explain Chalmer's Problem
Originally I was stating that Marxism is not about equality, or rather communism. Because as you said, at most equality can only be gained in *some* respect or inequality can only be reduced to some minimums
Materialism in terms of physicalism can explain mind, I would actually say idealism just shifts the question of the mind
marxism isnt about equality?
It cannot. For it to explain that, it would require to explain qualia