Message from @PebbЛe

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2018-11-10 18:07:03 UTC  

nope

2018-11-10 18:07:23 UTC  

The base creates the superstructure and the superstructure perpetuates the base

2018-11-10 18:07:51 UTC  

Material analyses renders your "haha I deem this 50% capitalist" ideas false

2018-11-10 18:08:09 UTC  

National Socialism (Nazism) is a political belief created by Friedrich Naumann. It aims to unite Socialist ideas with nationalism (specifically German nationalism). National Socialism is a centrist idea which leans slightly right due to it's ultra-nationalist elements.

There are elements of Socialism within Nazism but in many cases welfare money was only given to those of native descent. The belief of the people being a master race is also a right wing idea and in the case of Nazi Germany the Aryan race is the master race. Nationalism is strong in Nazi regimes. The love of one's country and the belief that it should be strong is also a typically right wing idea (Note that Patriots and Nationalist are very different people and should NOT be confused).

National Socialism does not believe in class division. They despise the idea of Poor vs Rich (Communism) and Rich vs Poor (Capitalism). Many National Socialists believe that all class division should be abandoned and all people should unite behind the master race to make the Country better.
"National Socialism is Socialist". "No it's actually Nationalist with a few socialist ideas"

2018-11-10 18:08:55 UTC  

Communism is not poor vs rich

2018-11-10 18:09:00 UTC  

yes it is

2018-11-10 18:09:04 UTC  

No it's not

2018-11-10 18:09:05 UTC  

ooga booga wealthy man bad

2018-11-10 18:09:10 UTC  

^

2018-11-10 18:10:22 UTC  

Marx's critique of the gotha program points out that some will always be richer due to the virtue of laboring more and the value of labor being inherently more

2018-11-10 18:10:42 UTC  

But there comes a point when they are too rich

2018-11-10 18:10:47 UTC  

I was typing that

2018-11-10 18:10:51 UTC  

when they have worked too hard

2018-11-10 18:10:53 UTC  

^

2018-11-10 18:10:59 UTC  

then it's bad because muh inequality

2018-11-10 18:11:04 UTC  

^

2018-11-10 18:11:19 UTC  

thats not doctrinal to marxism at all

2018-11-10 18:11:40 UTC  

when you're referring to communism, byu the way, you must specify if you're talking about Marxism, Leninism or Stalinism

2018-11-10 18:11:48 UTC  

Communism has many forms

2018-11-10 18:11:52 UTC  

Leninism is a branch of marxism

2018-11-10 18:11:56 UTC  

stalinism is Marxist-Leninism

2018-11-10 18:12:06 UTC  

There are obviously differences between them

2018-11-10 18:12:10 UTC  

that's why they got different names

2018-11-10 18:12:19 UTC  

There are not differences in the end goal of Communism

2018-11-10 18:12:28 UTC  

and minor differences in ideology between Lenin and Stalin

2018-11-10 18:12:33 UTC  

and Marx doesn't give revolutionary praxeology

2018-11-10 18:12:38 UTC  

u dont know what youre talknig about

2018-11-10 18:12:40 UTC  

Not in the end goal, but until you achieve that goal, there are many differences

2018-11-10 18:13:00 UTC  

"u dont know what youre talknig about"

2018-11-10 18:13:01 UTC  

you already made a non sequitur

2018-11-10 18:13:02 UTC  

says you

2018-11-10 18:13:17 UTC  

You just said communism has many forms then just agreed with me

2018-11-10 18:13:21 UTC  

You literally believe that National Socialis is 100% Capitalist

2018-11-10 18:13:36 UTC  

it's distinct mode of production is capitalist

2018-11-10 18:13:40 UTC  

you cant label it as anything else

2018-11-10 18:13:54 UTC  

National Socialism (Nazism) is a political belief created by Friedrich Naumann. It aims to unite Socialist ideas with nationalism (specifically German nationalism). National Socialism is a centrist idea which leans slightly right due to it's ultra-nationalist elements.

There are elements of Socialism within Nazism but in many cases welfare money was only given to those of native descent. The belief of the people being a master race is also a right wing idea and in the case of Nazi Germany the Aryan race is the master race. Nationalism is strong in Nazi regimes. The love of one's country and the belief that it should be strong is also a typically right wing idea (Note that Patriots and Nationalist are very different people and should NOT be confused).

National Socialism does not believe in class division. They despise the idea of Poor vs Rich (Communism) and Rich vs Poor (Capitalism). Many National Socialists believe that all class division should be abandoned and all people should unite behind the master race to make the Country better.
"National Socialism is Socialist". "No it's actually Nationalist with a few socialist ideas"

2018-11-10 18:13:57 UTC  

did you read that

2018-11-10 18:14:01 UTC  

To be motivated is if you wanna do something or you don't, besides if you're motivated enough to ho to the store to but a motivation book aren't you motivated enough to do that so you don't need the book put it back and tel the court fk you I'm motivated I'm going home

2018-11-10 18:14:03 UTC  

welfare is not socialistic

2018-11-10 18:14:34 UTC  

hitler privatized banks and public firms

2018-11-10 18:14:52 UTC  

It is largely capitalist, but not entirely