Message from @PebbЛe

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2018-11-10 18:03:19 UTC  

wrong

2018-11-10 18:03:20 UTC  

false

2018-11-10 18:03:23 UTC  

you are wrong

2018-11-10 18:03:53 UTC  

modes of production are distinct

2018-11-10 18:04:02 UTC  

you fuckin retard

2018-11-10 18:04:05 UTC  

you fucking fool!

2018-11-10 18:04:13 UTC  

not an argument

2018-11-10 18:04:21 UTC  

You can't keep repeating false shit

2018-11-10 18:04:32 UTC  

that won't make you right once you say it enough

2018-11-10 18:04:37 UTC  

You both have presented no arguments, really, just repeating one thing again and again
-It is fully Capitalist
-No
-It is fully capitalist
-No
-it is fully Capitalist
-No

2018-11-10 18:04:41 UTC  

Just debate properly.

2018-11-10 18:04:48 UTC  

no

2018-11-10 18:04:49 UTC  

chutup

2018-11-10 18:04:55 UTC  

okay i'll chutup

2018-11-10 18:04:59 UTC  

fuck the shut your hell the up

2018-11-10 18:06:58 UTC  

Modes of production are distinct and dominate the economic unit of society

2018-11-10 18:07:03 UTC  

nope

2018-11-10 18:07:23 UTC  

The base creates the superstructure and the superstructure perpetuates the base

2018-11-10 18:07:51 UTC  

Material analyses renders your "haha I deem this 50% capitalist" ideas false

2018-11-10 18:08:09 UTC  

National Socialism (Nazism) is a political belief created by Friedrich Naumann. It aims to unite Socialist ideas with nationalism (specifically German nationalism). National Socialism is a centrist idea which leans slightly right due to it's ultra-nationalist elements.

There are elements of Socialism within Nazism but in many cases welfare money was only given to those of native descent. The belief of the people being a master race is also a right wing idea and in the case of Nazi Germany the Aryan race is the master race. Nationalism is strong in Nazi regimes. The love of one's country and the belief that it should be strong is also a typically right wing idea (Note that Patriots and Nationalist are very different people and should NOT be confused).

National Socialism does not believe in class division. They despise the idea of Poor vs Rich (Communism) and Rich vs Poor (Capitalism). Many National Socialists believe that all class division should be abandoned and all people should unite behind the master race to make the Country better.
"National Socialism is Socialist". "No it's actually Nationalist with a few socialist ideas"

2018-11-10 18:08:55 UTC  

Communism is not poor vs rich

2018-11-10 18:09:00 UTC  

yes it is

2018-11-10 18:09:04 UTC  

No it's not

2018-11-10 18:09:05 UTC  

ooga booga wealthy man bad

2018-11-10 18:09:10 UTC  

^

2018-11-10 18:10:22 UTC  

Marx's critique of the gotha program points out that some will always be richer due to the virtue of laboring more and the value of labor being inherently more

2018-11-10 18:10:42 UTC  

But there comes a point when they are too rich

2018-11-10 18:10:47 UTC  

I was typing that

2018-11-10 18:10:51 UTC  

when they have worked too hard

2018-11-10 18:10:53 UTC  

^

2018-11-10 18:10:59 UTC  

then it's bad because muh inequality

2018-11-10 18:11:04 UTC  

^

2018-11-10 18:11:19 UTC  

thats not doctrinal to marxism at all

2018-11-10 18:11:40 UTC  

when you're referring to communism, byu the way, you must specify if you're talking about Marxism, Leninism or Stalinism

2018-11-10 18:11:48 UTC  

Communism has many forms

2018-11-10 18:11:52 UTC  

Leninism is a branch of marxism

2018-11-10 18:11:56 UTC  

stalinism is Marxist-Leninism

2018-11-10 18:12:06 UTC  

There are obviously differences between them

2018-11-10 18:12:10 UTC  

that's why they got different names

2018-11-10 18:12:19 UTC  

There are not differences in the end goal of Communism

2018-11-10 18:12:28 UTC  

and minor differences in ideology between Lenin and Stalin