Message from @Koninos
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thats not doctrinal to marxism at all
when you're referring to communism, byu the way, you must specify if you're talking about Marxism, Leninism or Stalinism
Communism has many forms
Leninism is a branch of marxism
stalinism is Marxist-Leninism
There are obviously differences between them
that's why they got different names
There are not differences in the end goal of Communism
and minor differences in ideology between Lenin and Stalin
and Marx doesn't give revolutionary praxeology
u dont know what youre talknig about
Not in the end goal, but until you achieve that goal, there are many differences
"u dont know what youre talknig about"
you already made a non sequitur
says you
You just said communism has many forms then just agreed with me
You literally believe that National Socialis is 100% Capitalist
it's distinct mode of production is capitalist
you cant label it as anything else
National Socialism (Nazism) is a political belief created by Friedrich Naumann. It aims to unite Socialist ideas with nationalism (specifically German nationalism). National Socialism is a centrist idea which leans slightly right due to it's ultra-nationalist elements.
There are elements of Socialism within Nazism but in many cases welfare money was only given to those of native descent. The belief of the people being a master race is also a right wing idea and in the case of Nazi Germany the Aryan race is the master race. Nationalism is strong in Nazi regimes. The love of one's country and the belief that it should be strong is also a typically right wing idea (Note that Patriots and Nationalist are very different people and should NOT be confused).
National Socialism does not believe in class division. They despise the idea of Poor vs Rich (Communism) and Rich vs Poor (Capitalism). Many National Socialists believe that all class division should be abandoned and all people should unite behind the master race to make the Country better.
"National Socialism is Socialist". "No it's actually Nationalist with a few socialist ideas"
To be motivated is if you wanna do something or you don't, besides if you're motivated enough to ho to the store to but a motivation book aren't you motivated enough to do that so you don't need the book put it back and tel the court fk you I'm motivated I'm going home
welfare is not socialistic
hitler privatized banks and public firms
It is largely capitalist, but not entirely
it is capitalist because its dominating mode of production is capitalist
you cannot point over here and say capitalist and point over there and say not capitalist
the fact that hitler privatized the banks and public farms, therefore acting capitalist, doesn't mean that the whole system is capitalist
the economic unit is driven by capitalism
the base operates on bourgeois social relations of production
commodity production, capital accumulation, surplus extraction, primacy of wage labor
private ownership
you can keep copy pasting but you still dont know about nazism
You're retarded
I'll just leave, if you think that I'm just copypasting
Hitler was the orator of the anti-capitalist DAP that became the NSDAP but then he literally demoted his anti-capitalist economist and sold out to industrialists
and if that's an argument
you are copy pasting idiot
sure I am