Message from @Koninos

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2018-11-10 18:13:21 UTC  

You literally believe that National Socialis is 100% Capitalist

2018-11-10 18:13:36 UTC  

it's distinct mode of production is capitalist

2018-11-10 18:13:40 UTC  

you cant label it as anything else

2018-11-10 18:13:54 UTC  

National Socialism (Nazism) is a political belief created by Friedrich Naumann. It aims to unite Socialist ideas with nationalism (specifically German nationalism). National Socialism is a centrist idea which leans slightly right due to it's ultra-nationalist elements.

There are elements of Socialism within Nazism but in many cases welfare money was only given to those of native descent. The belief of the people being a master race is also a right wing idea and in the case of Nazi Germany the Aryan race is the master race. Nationalism is strong in Nazi regimes. The love of one's country and the belief that it should be strong is also a typically right wing idea (Note that Patriots and Nationalist are very different people and should NOT be confused).

National Socialism does not believe in class division. They despise the idea of Poor vs Rich (Communism) and Rich vs Poor (Capitalism). Many National Socialists believe that all class division should be abandoned and all people should unite behind the master race to make the Country better.
"National Socialism is Socialist". "No it's actually Nationalist with a few socialist ideas"

2018-11-10 18:13:57 UTC  

did you read that

2018-11-10 18:14:01 UTC  

To be motivated is if you wanna do something or you don't, besides if you're motivated enough to ho to the store to but a motivation book aren't you motivated enough to do that so you don't need the book put it back and tel the court fk you I'm motivated I'm going home

2018-11-10 18:14:03 UTC  

welfare is not socialistic

2018-11-10 18:14:34 UTC  

hitler privatized banks and public firms

2018-11-10 18:14:52 UTC  

It is largely capitalist, but not entirely

2018-11-10 18:15:18 UTC  

it is capitalist because its dominating mode of production is capitalist

2018-11-10 18:15:25 UTC  

you cannot point over here and say capitalist and point over there and say not capitalist

2018-11-10 18:15:29 UTC  

the fact that hitler privatized the banks and public farms, therefore acting capitalist, doesn't mean that the whole system is capitalist

2018-11-10 18:15:33 UTC  

the economic unit is driven by capitalism

2018-11-10 18:15:45 UTC  

the base operates on bourgeois social relations of production

2018-11-10 18:16:07 UTC  

commodity production, capital accumulation, surplus extraction, primacy of wage labor

2018-11-10 18:16:10 UTC  

private ownership

2018-11-10 18:17:32 UTC  

you can keep copy pasting but you still dont know about nazism

2018-11-10 18:17:48 UTC  

You're retarded

2018-11-10 18:18:08 UTC  

I'll just leave, if you think that I'm just copypasting

2018-11-10 18:18:13 UTC  

Hitler was the orator of the anti-capitalist DAP that became the NSDAP but then he literally demoted his anti-capitalist economist and sold out to industrialists

2018-11-10 18:18:15 UTC  

and if that's an argument

2018-11-10 18:18:30 UTC  

you are copy pasting idiot

2018-11-10 18:18:44 UTC  

sure I am

2018-11-10 18:18:47 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955220473806859/510881020690563102/unknown.png

2018-11-10 18:18:53 UTC  

fucking idiot

2018-11-10 18:19:06 UTC  

moron

2018-11-10 18:19:43 UTC  

@Koninos try reading a book instead of copy pasting things on the internet

2018-11-10 18:19:50 UTC  

that dont even match your distorted views

2018-11-10 18:19:54 UTC  

you're retarded aren't you

2018-11-10 18:20:06 UTC  

The fun thing is that I don't even have google opened

2018-11-10 18:20:10 UTC  

And I do not need copypastas

2018-11-10 18:20:16 UTC  

you literally copy pasted what was in this article word by word

2018-11-10 18:20:22 UTC  

No one said they were socialists

2018-11-10 18:20:28 UTC  

To prove that National Socialism was not entirely capitalist

2018-11-10 18:20:38 UTC  

Exactly, I'm saying that it is not fully capitlaist

2018-11-10 18:20:41 UTC  

not that it's socialist

2018-11-10 18:20:41 UTC  

you just said you werent copy pasting

2018-11-10 18:20:42 UTC  

fool

2018-11-10 18:20:51 UTC  

i didn't say that you said it was socialistic

2018-11-10 18:21:09 UTC  

i am diatribing the essence of your argument - you can fragment the dominant mode of production arbitrarily when you want to