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havent read much about politics, just kind of taught myself by looking at actual examples of systems in use
if thats the definition of history in linear fashion
then i dont subscribe
Well, the debate about progress is meaningless in cyclical view because there is no such thing as progress
and i disagree with cyclical history aswell
Lol, how do you view history?
in my mind
The only way to get better is to look at what worked and why and what didnt work and why
then to mix it with modern ideals that work
to try and find something better
to rinse and repeat till you reach utopia
but
that every nation can improve itself without making conditions worse in other nations
Hmm... Well, the point is that what works is ok for some people and not for others. There is hardly any system that is good for everybody.
not really
its more
there is a system that is good for everyone
but it hasnt been made yet
its currently in development
Ok, tell me do you think that sodomy, fornication and adultery - would any of these be illegal in your concept of an ideal world?
These were results from my political test
so yh
And would not that harm gays, youth and adulterous people? They would wish otherwise
Because we now have plenty of those, they would never want to live in your system
Adulterous people are horrible people to begin with
and everyone would agree even they would
so thats not a problem
That is not true. I was seeing data on France and half of people think adultery is ok
Yh but
how many french would say the same if it happened to them
Well, they are doing it anyways. Around 60% of them are unfaithful to their partners, estimates suggest. By partners, I mean even live in and other committed relationships
oof
Well, what I am just saying is that the only way forward is when the society destroys itself and hedonistic people would either be conquered or die off
I think you'd find that hedonists would change before dying
yes
Lol, I don't think so. Why did other societies lose out then?
because they never got the chance
which other societies do you mean
primitives?