Message from @Cameron4433

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2018-11-30 16:41:19 UTC  

Honestly. I prefer him over those who wanted to be close to Russia

2018-11-30 16:42:01 UTC  

But there are many people who honestly want to have better relations with Russia right??
Especially in the east

2018-11-30 16:42:26 UTC  

```on 30 March 2014, The Daily Beast published photos which it stated were of members of the Alfa Group of the Ukrainian security services (SBU) taken on 20 February 2014 and said that these troops may have been trained by members of the Russian special forces.[19]```

2018-11-30 16:42:44 UTC  

I dont think that many want to

2018-11-30 16:42:52 UTC  

Russia as said above, it only keeps conquering

2018-11-30 16:43:05 UTC  

nearly nobody sane in Poland wants to be close to Russia, hence we have Ukraine...

2018-11-30 16:43:23 UTC  

and Ukraine is again, supported by the west, because alone it would end up like Georgia

2018-11-30 16:43:41 UTC  

but there is a solid reason for that support

2018-11-30 16:43:45 UTC  

doubt me, check Georgia

2018-11-30 16:43:57 UTC  

remember Finland right?

2018-11-30 16:44:04 UTC  

"the independent nation" blablah

2018-11-30 16:44:08 UTC  

Russia tried fucking it up

2018-11-30 16:44:23 UTC  

Yeah i heard about it...
Finlandisation

2018-11-30 16:45:04 UTC  

Ukraine has few choices, one was to be a russian cuck that gives away to moscow
the other was to stand tall and ally with european nations

2018-11-30 16:45:16 UTC  

Maintain close relations with both nato and the Warsaw pact

In other words keep sucking everyone's dick and hope they're happy

2018-11-30 16:45:18 UTC  

they chose to stand tall, I am not surprised

2018-11-30 16:45:26 UTC  

not really

2018-11-30 16:45:33 UTC  

Ukraine doesnt suffer from being close to Nato

2018-11-30 16:45:39 UTC  

it would suffer from being close to Russia

2018-11-30 16:45:51 UTC  

it already does suffer from being annexed by it

2018-11-30 16:46:03 UTC  

But russia would suffer from being close to NATO

2018-11-30 16:46:22 UTC  

it isnt much of an alliance if you must be in one because the other way the "ally" will annex you ...

2018-11-30 16:46:32 UTC  

it is like a threat

2018-11-30 16:46:46 UTC  

Cool

2018-11-30 16:47:01 UTC  

yeah cool, great, let everyone suck off moscow else moscow will invade them, pls

2018-11-30 16:47:09 UTC  

thats why nobody likes russia

2018-11-30 16:47:17 UTC  

But i do believe that there is a solution where everyone get what they wanted

2018-11-30 16:47:22 UTC  

not really

2018-11-30 16:47:28 UTC  

Get russia into NATO

2018-11-30 16:47:33 UTC  

lmao nice joke

2018-11-30 16:47:38 UTC  

Russia is imperialistic

2018-11-30 16:47:41 UTC  

Think about it

2018-11-30 16:47:47 UTC  

It never respected Nato

2018-11-30 16:47:51 UTC  

it is acting like an angry kid

2018-11-30 16:48:03 UTC  

"we shit on Nato, we want our toys back reee"

2018-11-30 16:48:17 UTC  

"muh toys, now, gib crimea"

2018-11-30 16:48:58 UTC  

Russia's biggest fear is being enveloped by NATO...
So the best option is to say that "Russia weren't enemies anymore so you're welcome to join us"

2018-11-30 16:49:05 UTC  

>making a gas pipe through warsaw pact nations in order to let them fairly benefit, and to make it easier for slavs to have good relations
vs
>make a pact with germany exclusively because you dont give a fuck for countries that you want to destabilize later

2018-11-30 16:49:18 UTC  

I dont give a fuck what Russia fears

2018-11-30 16:49:23 UTC  

I mean, I do give one

2018-11-30 16:49:32 UTC  

I want Russia to be afraid and I want to do things that it is afraid of