doubt me, check Georgia

remember Finland right?

"the independent nation" blablah

Russia tried fucking it up

Yeah i heard about it...
Finlandisation

Ukraine has few choices, one was to be a russian cuck that gives away to moscow
the other was to stand tall and ally with european nations

Maintain close relations with both nato and the Warsaw pact

In other words keep sucking everyone's dick and hope they're happy

they chose to stand tall, I am not surprised

not really

Ukraine doesnt suffer from being close to Nato

it would suffer from being close to Russia

it already does suffer from being annexed by it

But russia would suffer from being close to NATO

it isnt much of an alliance if you must be in one because the other way the "ally" will annex you ...

it is like a threat

Cool

yeah cool, great, let everyone suck off moscow else moscow will invade them, pls

thats why nobody likes russia

But i do believe that there is a solution where everyone get what they wanted

not really

Get russia into NATO

lmao nice joke

Russia is imperialistic

Think about it

It never respected Nato

it is acting like an angry kid

"we shit on Nato, we want our toys back reee"

"muh toys, now, gib crimea"

Russia's biggest fear is being enveloped by NATO...
So the best option is to say that "Russia weren't enemies anymore so you're welcome to join us"

>making a gas pipe through warsaw pact nations in order to let them fairly benefit, and to make it easier for slavs to have good relations
vs
>make a pact with germany exclusively because you dont give a fuck for countries that you want to destabilize later

I dont give a fuck what Russia fears

I mean, I do give one

I want Russia to be afraid and I want to do things that it is afraid of

and I dont give a fuck for whether they like it or not

sorry for that typo, fixed it

*that it is afraid of*

Anyway...
Lets stop with russia for now...

hard to do that tbh

What's your opinion on India?

let it be, it does fine

```Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko says the European Commission has made a decision to allocate EUR 500 million in the first tranche of the fourth program of macro-financial assistance to Ukraine. "Sincerely grateful to the European Commission for positive decision to disburse to Ukraine first tranche of the 4th EU Macro-financial assistance program in the amount of EUR 500 Mln," he wrote on Facebook on November 30.```