Message from @Cameron4433

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2018-11-30 16:35:29 UTC  

Yanukovich earned more votes in the "russian" regions of Ukraine

2018-11-30 16:36:08 UTC  

Yep

2018-11-30 16:36:26 UTC  

```n the 2010 presidential election, Yanukovych became Yushchenko's successor as Ukrainian President after the Central Election Commission and international observers declared that the presidential election was conducted fairly.[13] Yanukovych was ousted from power four years later following the February 2014 Euromaidan clashes in Kiev's Independence Square```

2018-11-30 16:36:28 UTC  

look

2018-11-30 16:36:36 UTC  

there was Maidan after that I believe

2018-11-30 16:36:48 UTC  

exactly

2018-11-30 16:37:08 UTC  

Maidan was against that guy

2018-11-30 16:37:22 UTC  

after maidan I think that Yanukovich fled to Crimea

2018-11-30 16:37:46 UTC  

you see, that man had more votes in the regions that are currently either independent or annxed by Russia...

2018-11-30 16:37:53 UTC  

seems suspicious huh?

2018-11-30 16:38:19 UTC  

Actually from my research the people from the eastern and southern parts of russia which have a plurality of russian speaking people supported the association agreement with russia...
But the ones in the west supported closer links to EU

2018-11-30 16:39:04 UTC  

@|4d|61|74|74| the only thing i know is that there's a war in ukraine and Putin got what he wanted

2018-11-30 16:39:41 UTC  

And did a repeat of Georgia in 2008

2018-11-30 16:40:01 UTC  

there was the orange revolution and then the maidan

2018-11-30 16:40:17 UTC  

I believe that the man who was chosen in that revolution stood against ukraine joining EU

2018-11-30 16:40:28 UTC  

and after that, he was taken down and the current one was elected

2018-11-30 16:40:34 UTC  

the one that isnt a cuck of moscov

2018-11-30 16:40:51 UTC  

What do you think of Poroshenko?

2018-11-30 16:41:09 UTC  

```The day the agreement was signed, the motorcade of Yanukovych was fired upon[84] and shortly after that Yanukovych and other high government officials fled the country```

2018-11-30 16:41:19 UTC  

Honestly. I prefer him over those who wanted to be close to Russia

2018-11-30 16:42:01 UTC  

But there are many people who honestly want to have better relations with Russia right??
Especially in the east

2018-11-30 16:42:26 UTC  

```on 30 March 2014, The Daily Beast published photos which it stated were of members of the Alfa Group of the Ukrainian security services (SBU) taken on 20 February 2014 and said that these troops may have been trained by members of the Russian special forces.[19]```

2018-11-30 16:42:44 UTC  

I dont think that many want to

2018-11-30 16:42:52 UTC  

Russia as said above, it only keeps conquering

2018-11-30 16:43:05 UTC  

nearly nobody sane in Poland wants to be close to Russia, hence we have Ukraine...

2018-11-30 16:43:23 UTC  

and Ukraine is again, supported by the west, because alone it would end up like Georgia

2018-11-30 16:43:41 UTC  

but there is a solid reason for that support

2018-11-30 16:43:45 UTC  

doubt me, check Georgia

2018-11-30 16:43:57 UTC  

remember Finland right?

2018-11-30 16:44:04 UTC  

"the independent nation" blablah

2018-11-30 16:44:08 UTC  

Russia tried fucking it up

2018-11-30 16:44:23 UTC  

Yeah i heard about it...
Finlandisation

2018-11-30 16:45:04 UTC  

Ukraine has few choices, one was to be a russian cuck that gives away to moscow
the other was to stand tall and ally with european nations

2018-11-30 16:45:16 UTC  

Maintain close relations with both nato and the Warsaw pact

In other words keep sucking everyone's dick and hope they're happy

2018-11-30 16:45:18 UTC  

they chose to stand tall, I am not surprised

2018-11-30 16:45:26 UTC  

not really

2018-11-30 16:45:33 UTC  

Ukraine doesnt suffer from being close to Nato

2018-11-30 16:45:39 UTC  

it would suffer from being close to Russia

2018-11-30 16:45:51 UTC  

it already does suffer from being annexed by it

2018-11-30 16:46:03 UTC  

But russia would suffer from being close to NATO

2018-11-30 16:46:22 UTC  

it isnt much of an alliance if you must be in one because the other way the "ally" will annex you ...