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What do you think of Poroshenko?
```The day the agreement was signed, the motorcade of Yanukovych was fired upon[84] and shortly after that Yanukovych and other high government officials fled the country```
Honestly. I prefer him over those who wanted to be close to Russia
But there are many people who honestly want to have better relations with Russia right??
Especially in the east
```on 30 March 2014, The Daily Beast published photos which it stated were of members of the Alfa Group of the Ukrainian security services (SBU) taken on 20 February 2014 and said that these troops may have been trained by members of the Russian special forces.[19]```
I dont think that many want to
Russia as said above, it only keeps conquering
nearly nobody sane in Poland wants to be close to Russia, hence we have Ukraine...
and Ukraine is again, supported by the west, because alone it would end up like Georgia
but there is a solid reason for that support
doubt me, check Georgia
remember Finland right?
"the independent nation" blablah
Russia tried fucking it up
Yeah i heard about it...
Finlandisation
Ukraine has few choices, one was to be a russian cuck that gives away to moscow
the other was to stand tall and ally with european nations
Maintain close relations with both nato and the Warsaw pact
In other words keep sucking everyone's dick and hope they're happy
they chose to stand tall, I am not surprised
not really
Ukraine doesnt suffer from being close to Nato
it already does suffer from being annexed by it
But russia would suffer from being close to NATO
it isnt much of an alliance if you must be in one because the other way the "ally" will annex you ...
it is like a threat
Cool
yeah cool, great, let everyone suck off moscow else moscow will invade them, pls
thats why nobody likes russia
But i do believe that there is a solution where everyone get what they wanted
not really
Get russia into NATO
lmao nice joke
Russia is imperialistic
Think about it
It never respected Nato
it is acting like an angry kid
"we shit on Nato, we want our toys back reee"
"muh toys, now, gib crimea"
Russia's biggest fear is being enveloped by NATO...
So the best option is to say that "Russia weren't enemies anymore so you're welcome to join us"
>making a gas pipe through warsaw pact nations in order to let them fairly benefit, and to make it easier for slavs to have good relations
vs
>make a pact with germany exclusively because you dont give a fuck for countries that you want to destabilize later
I dont give a fuck what Russia fears