nor is "state capitalism" a thing

That's not contradictory to what you just said @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

How so?

Something being a product of capitalism does not mean he thinks capitalism can't exist without it

it can

Regulations are a capitalist invention <:unequal:473954748517842954> regulations are capitalist

And he even made the distinction

It is not a product of capitalism

it is a product of socialism

Okay, why is it not? We're going in circles

regulations ARE socialist

those are socialist policies

Let's first distinguish regulation from ownership

Yes

regulation existing where property is privately owned

I know I'm not saying ownership is regulation

okay

I'm saying regulation is a product of socialism

A capitalist economy is a free market economy

You therefore need private property to implement regulation

Thats why a capitalist economy has never existed

Protecting people from lies from corporations isn't socialism lmao

lies?

ok you're not understanding

Regulations are inherently socialist

Corporations are inheritly self interested

That's fact

Where is the nazbol when you need him, he's actually well informed on this @Doctor Anon

@el pebble

and they need to act in the consumers interests to get profit

They will take any opportunity to trick consumers

they can't if they're chained

in fierce competition

and to please the consumer

That never happens

It doesd

all the time

Alright, let me ask you this @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

Monopoly always arises

but again, there is no capitalist society

monopolies are created by the state