Message from @ritasuma

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2018-12-07 16:43:30 UTC  

i can tell you first hand that it was stupid

2018-12-07 16:43:41 UTC  

no, the collectivization had happened way before the holodomor

2018-12-07 16:43:50 UTC  

And the stagnating economy after the USSR stole and seized technology and equipment from the west

2018-12-07 16:43:54 UTC  

the case of the ussr isn't mis-management

2018-12-07 16:43:58 UTC  

it's mis-take

2018-12-07 16:43:59 UTC  

And used it to develop more their underdeveloped country

2018-12-07 16:44:05 UTC  

and the mass annexation of countries

2018-12-07 16:44:10 UTC  

Giving a strong labour force

2018-12-07 16:44:10 UTC  

no, they developed a fuck ton of themselves

2018-12-07 16:44:17 UTC  

With literally tiny freedom

2018-12-07 16:44:18 UTC  

the labour force was mostly russian anyway

2018-12-07 16:44:28 UTC  

and generalyl from the old ussr

2018-12-07 16:44:31 UTC  

except the annexation which added millions

2018-12-07 16:44:37 UTC  

they imported a ton of workers here(baltics)

2018-12-07 16:44:59 UTC  

and the fact that the economic growth decline was due to the fact that socialism was inefficient and the technology/equipment gained from the west was used up

2018-12-07 16:45:13 UTC  

and they could not innovate efficiently apart from stealing and getting help from outside

2018-12-07 16:45:20 UTC  

gdp does not matter ins ocialism

2018-12-07 16:45:25 UTC  

So they started to do shitter and shitter until they collapsed

2018-12-07 16:45:26 UTC  

well marxism leninsm

2018-12-07 16:45:26 UTC  

Yes it does

2018-12-07 16:45:35 UTC  

no, because the profit isnt an incentive

2018-12-07 16:45:35 UTC  

It’s just another excuse

2018-12-07 16:45:46 UTC  

For socialists to deny history

2018-12-07 16:45:49 UTC  

quality of life and security was much higher then than it is now

2018-12-07 16:45:51 UTC  

lol

2018-12-07 16:45:53 UTC  

Not even close

2018-12-07 16:45:54 UTC  

woltros I think you're ignoring a key aspect there

2018-12-07 16:46:06 UTC  

USSR had terrible quality of life

2018-12-07 16:46:08 UTC  

GDP does not matter in a complete communistic society as said society is "global"

2018-12-07 16:46:09 UTC  

it did not

2018-12-07 16:46:14 UTC  

but with a country which imports and exports

2018-12-07 16:46:16 UTC  

yes it did

2018-12-07 16:46:16 UTC  

GDP does matter

2018-12-07 16:46:18 UTC  

It was dog shot

2018-12-07 16:46:26 UTC  

That’s why millions fled the country

2018-12-07 16:46:32 UTC  

it was absolutely terrible

2018-12-07 16:46:39 UTC  

First hand accounts, empirical evidence

2018-12-07 16:46:48 UTC  

and the rights of citizens were seen there

2018-12-07 16:46:51 UTC  

profit might not be an incentive within the system but it remains an incentive of the system on a global scale

2018-12-07 16:46:53 UTC  

then healthcare was accessible
Food was accsesible
everything had been taken care of

2018-12-07 16:46:55 UTC  

The personality cult country