Message from @Vilhelmsson

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2018-12-07 21:54:46 UTC  

eh

2018-12-07 21:54:50 UTC  

plus i think no one wants to get the plague and die

2018-12-07 21:54:51 UTC  

it'll happen by itself

2018-12-07 21:54:52 UTC  

Weabooism

2018-12-07 21:55:05 UTC  

because of the funny nostalgia for a time when you never lived

2018-12-07 21:55:28 UTC  

@ritasuma you don't necessarily need industrialization for modern medicine

2018-12-07 21:55:45 UTC  

how would you make the medicine thoguh

2018-12-07 21:56:06 UTC  

Cum is the only medicine anyone needs

2018-12-07 21:56:07 UTC  

also, under feudalism the serfs were effectively slaves

2018-12-07 21:56:08 UTC  

good point

2018-12-07 21:56:16 UTC  

absolutely no class mobility

2018-12-07 21:56:24 UTC  

if you were born into a serf you would stay that way

2018-12-07 21:56:31 UTC  

yeah, class mobility is unnecessary

2018-12-07 21:56:40 UTC  

I don't like serfdom, however

2018-12-07 21:56:41 UTC  

it leads to stangnation

2018-12-07 21:56:50 UTC  

you lose a lot of intelligent people and have idiots ruling

2018-12-07 21:56:53 UTC  

plus it leads to discontent

2018-12-07 21:56:58 UTC  

and possible riots

2018-12-07 21:57:08 UTC  

in materialist societies, yes

2018-12-07 21:57:39 UTC  

you do realize that class moblitiy is needed to make sure the best are at the top and the worst at the bottom

2018-12-07 21:58:00 UTC  

that's where our main divergances are, it would seem

2018-12-07 21:58:01 UTC  

you would slow down society heavily if you forced scientists to plow fields and idiots work at the lab

2018-12-07 21:58:11 UTC  

class collaboration is better

2018-12-07 21:58:19 UTC  

make the elites answer to the state

2018-12-07 21:58:29 UTC  

meritocracy, nobody is unnaturally held down

2018-12-07 21:58:35 UTC  

or kept up

2018-12-07 21:58:45 UTC  

Heritability of the qualifications of leadership solves this.

2018-12-07 21:58:57 UTC  

each person should be where they are meant to

2018-12-07 21:59:02 UTC  

meritocracy is unstable

2018-12-07 21:59:18 UTC  

heritablity isnt much

2018-12-07 21:59:27 UTC  

I don't like the idea of a state

2018-12-07 21:59:27 UTC  

No, it's unstable because it doesn't truly exist

2018-12-07 21:59:29 UTC  

a lot of monarchies have failed due to the incompetence of their leaders

2018-12-07 21:59:33 UTC  

^

2018-12-07 21:59:46 UTC  

cause mostly competence is a learned factor

2018-12-07 22:00:09 UTC  

internal conflict within the aristocracy adds another factor to their right to rule

2018-12-07 22:00:10 UTC  

It's a combination of it and genetics, but yes

2018-12-07 22:00:19 UTC  

then another thing

2018-12-07 22:00:21 UTC  

without one, you cannot have the other

2018-12-07 22:00:30 UTC  

nobles are breed and born to rule

2018-12-07 22:00:38 UTC  

You may be predisposed to being more competent, but if you are not in the proper environment, you will never be