Message from @Priyanka

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2019-04-15 03:22:54 UTC  

You don't wish for homogeneous nations alone. You wanted to shed blood for no reason and invade other nations + take their resources. Theft, murder, adultery, pride, etc. What else you got? Keep pretending to be a Christian.

2019-04-15 03:24:35 UTC  

^

2019-04-15 03:25:01 UTC  

seems fair enough, ethno-nationalism doesnt necessitate imperialism

2019-04-15 03:25:51 UTC  

also ive had the Christian argument concerning polygamy before and the New Testament seems pretty clear that its against it

2019-04-15 03:27:25 UTC  

He justifies polygamy using David, Abraham, etc. from the Old Testament

2019-04-15 03:29:50 UTC  

You are not a Christian, Rand.

2019-04-15 03:29:53 UTC  

Jesus basically denied that

2019-04-15 03:30:09 UTC  

im not, right but i can read and be honest to the text

2019-04-15 03:30:19 UTC  

I don't think you can.

2019-04-15 03:30:36 UTC  

But why don't you actually paste the verses so I can refute them before you go on making more bold assertions.

2019-04-15 03:30:43 UTC  

although i largely fall in line with very traditional latin and orthodox Christian teachings

2019-04-15 03:30:58 UTC  

heres the link

2019-04-15 03:31:02 UTC  

Christianity...that one religion where anyone can redefine it apparently.

2019-04-15 03:31:15 UTC  

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

2019-04-15 03:31:40 UTC  

This simply refers to divorce. To put away your wife to marry another.

2019-04-15 03:31:55 UTC  

this also carries over to take on multiple wives

2019-04-15 03:32:02 UTC  

How do you compatibilise such a teaching with other verses where God clearly condones polygamy?

2019-04-15 03:32:06 UTC  

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

2019-04-15 03:32:26 UTC  

"So they are no longer two, but one flesh" - what part of this is hard to understand?

2019-04-15 03:32:33 UTC  

I don't regard that as an argument for monogamy.

2019-04-15 03:32:36 UTC  

supersessionism is the common interpretation

2019-04-15 03:33:05 UTC  

That's hyper-literalism, reading into the text something you wish to read.

2019-04-15 03:33:22 UTC  

Concubinage isn't even about monogamy. You're not marrying concubines.

2019-04-15 03:33:24 UTC  

Also, I don't accept Rand's observations being a non-Christian.

2019-04-15 03:33:30 UTC  

They're literally mistresses.

2019-04-15 03:33:31 UTC  

that's adultery.

2019-04-15 03:33:37 UTC  

The Bible makes it clear adultery is bad

2019-04-15 03:33:41 UTC  

Jesus replaces the old covenant with the new

2019-04-15 03:34:04 UTC  

I don't see the old and new being different in substance.

2019-04-15 03:34:15 UTC  

it is by the christian viewpoint

2019-04-15 03:34:18 UTC  

Covenantalism is a pretty old biblical position.

2019-04-15 03:34:33 UTC  

Older than the one you're currently espousing.

2019-04-15 03:34:48 UTC  

Again you're not a Christian. I'm not going to accept your arguments, heathen.

2019-04-15 03:34:55 UTC  

Fenrir, you're following the Jewish standpoint

2019-04-15 03:34:58 UTC  

its the leading viewpoint amongst christians

2019-04-15 03:35:09 UTC  

How can a non-believer be expected to interpret inspired texts?

2019-04-15 03:35:19 UTC  

well someone who is Christian seems to be typing

2019-04-15 03:35:25 UTC  

Should change your role to Jewish if you worship the Old Testament