Message from @Farao Ramses II

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2019-08-04 20:45:54 UTC  

scientist take for granted the sector theyre referring to dilapidating is problematic

2019-08-04 20:46:16 UTC  

anthropologist work with the axioms of what defines society or civilization

2019-08-04 20:46:46 UTC  

You do realize the idea of a problem existing is within the realm of human emotion, not within the realm of the natural world per se?

2019-08-04 20:46:51 UTC  

scientist most certainly use the term problematic in reference to normative standards that they make obvious

2019-08-04 20:47:04 UTC  

It is indeed normative.

2019-08-04 20:47:04 UTC  

i think youre not understanding

2019-08-04 20:47:07 UTC  

yes

2019-08-04 20:47:17 UTC  

Science is not normative though.

2019-08-04 20:47:20 UTC  

It is descriptive.

2019-08-04 20:47:29 UTC  

and scientist appeal to normative standard in how they define the research and its conclusions

2019-08-04 20:47:41 UTC  

Sure they do.

2019-08-04 20:47:53 UTC  

I am not contesting that.

2019-08-04 20:47:56 UTC  

like nearly every abstract does that

2019-08-04 20:48:04 UTC  

so youre not contesting anything i said

2019-08-04 20:48:30 UTC  

I do not precisely recall what I was contesting, but it had to do with the definition of 'policy'.

2019-08-04 20:48:43 UTC  

scientist conclude that climate change is problematic relative to the normative of having a productive, healthy or capable society

2019-08-04 20:48:53 UTC  

i dont think so

2019-08-04 20:49:08 UTC  

We were originally speaking about policy and consequence.

2019-08-04 20:49:19 UTC  

In relation to scientific fact.

2019-08-04 20:49:21 UTC  

and how its informed by science

2019-08-04 20:49:43 UTC  

Ah, that is what I sort of contested.

2019-08-04 20:50:07 UTC  

I made the claim that policy is based on desired outcome.

2019-08-04 20:50:24 UTC  

I would like to amend that however.

2019-08-04 20:50:27 UTC  

how policy is adopted in reference to perceived reality and how science informs perceived reality

2019-08-04 20:50:46 UTC  

That I do agree with.

2019-08-04 20:50:59 UTC  

k

2019-08-04 20:51:19 UTC  

If I disagreed with that earlier, I don't recall why.

2019-08-04 20:51:47 UTC  

I am sorry, bit fuzzy in the brain.

2019-08-04 20:51:54 UTC  

lol np

2019-08-04 21:11:05 UTC  

Ah, I see where we went wrong. I made the remark that policy is based on desire, while I should have said policy is a course of action meant to reach a desired outcome.

2019-08-04 21:11:21 UTC  

Which sparked most of the discussion following.

2019-08-04 21:29:49 UTC  

k

2019-08-05 18:08:27 UTC  

hello, does anyone want to talk about protests and democracy? My point: protests do not lead to "more" democracy.

2019-08-05 19:17:34 UTC  

Protests are in their nature democratic though.

2019-08-05 19:22:33 UTC  

I would say democracy is bad because the 51% can take away the rights of the 49%

2019-08-05 19:33:49 UTC  

That could happen regardless from there being a democratic system in place.

2019-08-05 19:37:04 UTC  

Besides, a minority is more likely to trample over the rights of the (majority of) citizens than any democratic system with regular elections is.

2019-08-05 20:11:45 UTC  

world peace finally happenin! people are figuring out WW2, like the true story. please share! https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/anti-gravity-b52-bombers-won-ww2-ari-asulin/?published=t
i think the thing that did it, when everyone realized trump was going to win in 2020 because the media had been lying about him for over 4 years straight, they realized the same principle might be true for the last 100 years of global warfare. i.e. the victors of WW2 created public schools to teach a false version of their victory. Kinda obvious really

2019-08-05 20:52:57 UTC  

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