scientist conclude that climate change is problematic relative to the normative of having a productive, healthy or capable society

i dont think so

We were originally speaking about policy and consequence.

In relation to scientific fact.

and how its informed by science

Ah, that is what I sort of contested.

I made the claim that policy is based on desired outcome.

I would like to amend that however.

how policy is adopted in reference to perceived reality and how science informs perceived reality

That I do agree with.

k

If I disagreed with that earlier, I don't recall why.

I am sorry, bit fuzzy in the brain.

lol np

Ah, I see where we went wrong. I made the remark that policy is based on desire, while I should have said policy is a course of action meant to reach a desired outcome.

Which sparked most of the discussion following.

k

hello, does anyone want to talk about protests and democracy? My point: protests do not lead to "more" democracy.

Protests are in their nature democratic though.

I would say democracy is bad because the 51% can take away the rights of the 49%

That could happen regardless from there being a democratic system in place.

Besides, a minority is more likely to trample over the rights of the (majority of) citizens than any democratic system with regular elections is.

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i think the thing that did it, when everyone realized trump was going to win in 2020 because the media had been lying about him for over 4 years straight, they realized the same principle might be true for the last 100 years of global warfare. i.e. the victors of WW2 created public schools to teach a false version of their victory. Kinda obvious really

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/05/dayton-el-paso-shootings-what-red-flag-laws/1922428001/

https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/who-are-mass-shooters-mass-shooter-demographics-part-2/

I don’t know what people are going at. America isn’t a democracy. It’s an oligarchy

its still a democracy by definition, i guess by oligarchy you mean in the form of a plutocracy?

And 4 years about lying about Trump? You mean saying how his politics is? Divisive and unpresidential? I don’t know if you haven’t noticed but, his rhetoric aside from economic issues are all about race. From the 2020 census, to dreamers, to illegal immigration, to the wall

His rhetoric is encompassed of racial divisions and old tropes dating back to the Alien and Sedition Acts enacted under John Adams

His economics are faulty as shown during the time of Regan. The deficit exploded as well as the national debt

racial division are natural and inherent, the rise in racial interest was already there under Obama and simply continued under Trump

All for the sake of “supply and demand economics”

who exactly are you replying to?

Oh not to you @protricity

And yes it’s an oligarchy

it seems like this a copy & paste youtube or reddit comment but not well informed

I’m typing this as I’m saying this

And Obama never enacted racial policies.

His policies weren’t inherently racial.

"the deficit exploded as well as national debt"