Message from @Farao Ramses II
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I understand hume's guillotine
It has a certain effect on the things you list which we humans consider problematic.
it simply states is do not justify oughts
not that it doesnt affect oughts
It being problematic is not in itself a scientific point.
because its does
scientist take for granted the sector theyre referring to dilapidating is problematic
anthropologist work with the axioms of what defines society or civilization
You do realize the idea of a problem existing is within the realm of human emotion, not within the realm of the natural world per se?
scientist most certainly use the term problematic in reference to normative standards that they make obvious
It is indeed normative.
i think youre not understanding
yes
Science is not normative though.
It is descriptive.
and scientist appeal to normative standard in how they define the research and its conclusions
Sure they do.
I am not contesting that.
like nearly every abstract does that
so youre not contesting anything i said
scientist conclude that climate change is problematic relative to the normative of having a productive, healthy or capable society
i dont think so
We were originally speaking about policy and consequence.
In relation to scientific fact.
and how its informed by science
Ah, that is what I sort of contested.
I made the claim that policy is based on desired outcome.
I would like to amend that however.
how policy is adopted in reference to perceived reality and how science informs perceived reality
That I do agree with.
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If I disagreed with that earlier, I don't recall why.
I am sorry, bit fuzzy in the brain.
lol np
Ah, I see where we went wrong. I made the remark that policy is based on desire, while I should have said policy is a course of action meant to reach a desired outcome.
Which sparked most of the discussion following.
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hello, does anyone want to talk about protests and democracy? My point: protests do not lead to "more" democracy.
Protests are in their nature democratic though.
I would say democracy is bad because the 51% can take away the rights of the 49%