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policy is based on information
Policy is mostly based on desire.
that information can be analyzed in a scientific matter
and proven wrong or right
Science can merely inform you in regard to how reality functions.
You can consider scientific facts in regard to setting policy, but the policy is merely set to reach a desired outcome, regardless of the scientific fact per se.
and how you think reality operates affects your desires
I do not contest that. Not entirely at least.
like the desire to stop climate change is based on research that shows climate change is problematic
Err...
You are making a slip there.
or that climate change is real
no im not
Climate change is real, yeah.
But it being problematic is a moral judgement.
And inherently human.
and its problematic to agriculture, energy production and so on
And really a judgment tying in with desire.
I understand hume's guillotine
It has a certain effect on the things you list which we humans consider problematic.
not that it doesnt affect oughts
It being problematic is not in itself a scientific point.
because its does
scientist take for granted the sector theyre referring to dilapidating is problematic
anthropologist work with the axioms of what defines society or civilization
You do realize the idea of a problem existing is within the realm of human emotion, not within the realm of the natural world per se?
scientist most certainly use the term problematic in reference to normative standards that they make obvious
It is indeed normative.
i think youre not understanding
yes
Science is not normative though.
It is descriptive.
and scientist appeal to normative standard in how they define the research and its conclusions
Sure they do.
I am not contesting that.
like nearly every abstract does that
so youre not contesting anything i said
I do not precisely recall what I was contesting, but it had to do with the definition of 'policy'.
scientist conclude that climate change is problematic relative to the normative of having a productive, healthy or capable society
i dont think so