Oh ok

Then I'll pick 1917, because politically that was the start year of socialism

Fair.

So under Stalin it was real socialism?

Yes.

Yes

Are you going to follow that up with anything or are you just going to ask if the USSR was socialist again?

No I just find it interesting how I’ve run in to many Communists/Socialists who would disagree.

Yeah.

Unless you’re both tankies or something

A lot of leftcoms and anarchists tend to call Stalin a pseudo-Socialist.

I'm not a Marxist, so I'm hardly a tankie.

I'm a strasserite, if that wasn't already established.

I often get called a tankie

Same, surprisingly.

@Advocatus Diaboli Well, you’re a communist obviously?

Though I don't even know the meaning of this word

Yes I am

What kind? Marxist-Leninist? Maoist? Trotskyist?

advocatus

you in any communist or leftist servers?

Hi there

A "tankie" is generally someone who "sympathises" will Stalin. It comes from when the USSR sent tanks into Hungary in 1956, I believe.

Workers Paradise same as you

I'm Stalinist

So ML, then.

Yeah

Do you believe Stalinism to be true communism? According to Marx’s words anyways?

I just say 'Stalinist' because that's shorter than saying 'Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist'

But the latter is what I believe is Stalinism

By true communism I mean end goal of the ideology.

You have to remember that the Marxist-Leninist (Stalinist) state was designed to be a transition state between Socialism and Communism, so it can't be called "true communism".

According to all Marxist theory, a strong transition state is needed.

^

"True communism" is impossible in a country as large as the U.S.S.R. lol.

Wat

Communism is generally accepted to require global control first.

^ again

go to debate

Okai

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