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it exists WITHIN the capitalist mode of production

if you say that then capitalism is only capitalist when it's anarcho capitalist

and robert nozick's rebutall is best here, capitalists would see the efficiency of the state in obtaining their goals are just create one from ancapitalist system there is no mechanism to preserve ancapitalism

2018-05-31 18:51:55 UTC  

@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 Are you familiar with the term "laissez-faire"?

yes and i say that lassiez-faire are people who cannot understand the purpose of the state in the capitalist system

the state is a tool of the bourgeoisie

the state is a tool of the RULING CLASS

2018-05-31 18:52:48 UTC  

What? Laissez-faire means "hands off", that's a predicate or state of being, not a noun.

and they fail

2018-05-31 18:52:55 UTC  

you mean the kikes?

to see

the state purpose

in the capitalist system

they think the state

is a seperate entity

to the capitalist mode of production

no no no the capitalist mode of production incorporates the state as a tool

2018-05-31 18:53:30 UTC  

Who is "THEY"?

people who support 'lassiez-faire' capitalism

2018-05-31 18:54:26 UTC  

Here is the definition of capitalism, "an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state." Where does this involve using the state to control the economy?

because the private owners for profit know they can use the state to MAXIMIZE their profits

that's why lobbyists exist

that's why there's so much political corruption

it doesn't say in your definition

that the state cannot exist

within a capitalist system

only that the means of production

are controlled by the capitalists

a 'mixed economy' still has a majority of the industry and trade controlled by capitalists therefore is a capitalist system

2018-05-31 18:56:52 UTC  

is a spoon a spoon or is a spoon a table?

2018-05-31 18:57:19 UTC  

"controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state." If it does not meet this definition, it is not capitalism. The use of lobbyists and using bureacracy to bash novice businesses is a tool of corporatism and bureacracy, by creating government regulations, that kills small businesses, not free choice of the people.

this doesn't matter

literally

capitalism becomes corporatism

because corporatism serves the profit motive

better than whatever idealisitic nonsense of 'capitalism' you're talking about

corporatism helps create monopolies that create larger profits for the capitalists

2018-05-31 18:58:26 UTC  

Karde i love you

secondly

capitalists still control