Message from @DA GOMMIE JOO
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At this point
again you're starting from the assumption that race is a real thing but in the scientific world we start from no assumptions and that it must be proven.
culture yes
checnya is a cultural boundary, not a genetic one
clearly the chechens only have different culture
and biologically have no differences
look at the caucasus region in general
this is a motte and bailey argument
it's all cultural differences
disagreeing that races exist doesn't mean that genetic variation doesn't exist i.e in the case Y haplogroups
@Adoring Fan Guess who's actually so close to the Greeks and Tuscans ( Fabled sources of "White" civilization ) to the point of almost overlapping with the Greeks moreso than almost any other European?
and if you really want a racial mindfuck
look at the difference between north and south ossetia
this is like when the fash acted me on colour. Disagreeing objective categorizations of colours exist doesn't mean disagreeing that electromagnetic emission spectrums exist or chemical compounds that absorb certain wavelengths of electromagnetic emission exist
it's like they only read what they want to in our posts
The answer is Ashkenazi Jews
and let me make that clear PIGMENTS have no colour they have atoms and molecular structurewhich absorb and reflect specific WAVELENGHTS of electromagnetic emission.
"I like vanilla ice cream"
"oh, so you hate every other flavor?"
If you accept Greeks you have to accept Jews as well
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what about genetic cluster and self identified race
I wasnt here probably
genetic clustering and self identified race is due to ancestry but doesn't prove that races exist as it starts from the assumption races can be neatly genetically clustered in the first place
genetic clusters don't prove race
genetic clustering would have to show nice discrete groupings and not the potential for all levels of taxonomic examination from individuals to large continental groups to be correct for race theory to be coherent.
if it does show that it then puts the question on the examiner if they choose one analysis what exterior reasons they have for this. In the field of medicine it can help as a crude approximation but they've realized that's not entirely helpful anymore so are moving towards specific genetic testing for individuals. Hence all the advertisments for 23 and me and all those genetic testing programs, companies want your genetic data to make more money lol.
I'm not quite getting what youre saying here.
if all the answers to 'how many races there are' are correct then picking one answer over another shows some bias the spectator has instead of strictly scientific inquiry.
genetic testing may point to possible diseases, which may be found useful for insurance companies is what Im thinking
@Mr.AnalTwister4000 If we're going for genetic cohesion, why are Greece and Sardinia included but not others? Why eject Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews instead of Russia and Finland?
I never understood that
races have always been inconsistent and nothing based in science the biggest blow is that in other socities they don't even have the same 'racial' groupings.
Jews can be white they will still be deported tho
I thought the argument surrounds regarding wether race is real and not a definitive amount of races. rather they ask the person tested what race they identify with and then procede to tell a computer to group the genetic clusters into x amount of groups
It seems to me like you're deciding more with a "Just so" distinction than along racial lines
but if races were real and not just humans trying to find patterns in data to support their biases
then they would be clear and discrete
picture unrelated
ethnicity has what to do with race again?
did he ever say anything to that effect?
i never brought ethnicity into this i just pointed to other cultures disagreeing on racial categorization