didn't scott already spend like 10 minutes on that?

I wasnt here probably

genetic clustering and self identified race is due to ancestry but doesn't prove that races exist as it starts from the assumption races can be neatly genetically clustered in the first place

genetic clusters don't prove race

genetic clustering would have to show nice discrete groupings and not the potential for all levels of taxonomic examination from individuals to large continental groups to be correct for race theory to be coherent.

if it does show that it then puts the question on the examiner if they choose one analysis what exterior reasons they have for this. In the field of medicine it can help as a crude approximation but they've realized that's not entirely helpful anymore so are moving towards specific genetic testing for individuals. Hence all the advertisments for 23 and me and all those genetic testing programs, companies want your genetic data to make more money lol.

I'm not quite getting what youre saying here.

if all the answers to 'how many races there are' are correct then picking one answer over another shows some bias the spectator has instead of strictly scientific inquiry.

genetic testing may point to possible diseases, which may be found useful for insurance companies is what Im thinking

@Mr.AnalTwister4000 If we're going for genetic cohesion, why are Greece and Sardinia included but not others? Why eject Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews instead of Russia and Finland?

I never understood that

races have always been inconsistent and nothing based in science the biggest blow is that in other socities they don't even have the same 'racial' groupings.

Jews can be white they will still be deported tho

I thought the argument surrounds regarding wether race is real and not a definitive amount of races. rather they ask the person tested what race they identify with and then procede to tell a computer to group the genetic clusters into x amount of groups

It seems to me like you're deciding more with a "Just so" distinction than along racial lines

but if races were real and not just humans trying to find patterns in data to support their biases

then they would be clear and discrete

picture unrelated

ethnicity has what to do with race again?

did he ever say anything to that effect?

i never brought ethnicity into this i just pointed to other cultures disagreeing on racial categorization

@DA GOMMIE JOO

>main ethnic groups

but how do these ethnic groupings arise?

if you looked further down

they're racially motivated

>when you read the title and then ignore everything else

he brought up something titled ethnicity which was pretty irrelevant. I do not know enough about brazil to know regarding what lines they consider races or in general.

but think about this, in a world where there are international organizations that standardize the production of tea for research wouldn't they standardize the racial groupings across borders for scientific research?

>when the other guy cites a diagram disproving you so you focus on the title of the diagram

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3103

but it didnt disprove me lmao

if racial groupings are objectively scientific then why isn't there an international standard in the science community for what racial groupings there are 😆

kek

Because thats not politically correct

BecAusE ThAt'S Not POlITcAlLY cOrRECt

but the medical benefits behind it would be vast

Muh scientific authorities isnt an argument

I thought we were arguing wether race exist not where the specific line goes between races and how many there exist

"the scientific community censors things based on whether they're PC or not"
>completely misunderstands how science works

but races are literally the categorizations of human genetic variation