Message from @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼

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2018-06-02 22:21:39 UTC  

If the company can still function, there is always a ladder somewhere.

2018-06-02 22:21:48 UTC  

That's why only the strongest will make it out on top

2018-06-02 22:21:56 UTC  

Then it will start over

2018-06-02 22:21:57 UTC  

Then I have to repeat my question, Karde:

The strongest lol

2018-06-02 22:22:02 UTC  

How do you become a CEO?

Well a lot of the wealthiest people inherited

2018-06-02 22:22:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450683222653796353/452597848924487680/abb.png

2018-06-02 22:22:21 UTC  

If it's impossible to climb the ladder like you say, clearly you saying "they climbed the ladder" doesn't apply.

Some capital already

2018-06-02 22:22:26 UTC  

You've just contradicted your earlier argument.

I said they pull it up

2018-06-02 22:23:02 UTC  

I asked you the same question earlier, you said they worked up the ladder to CEO. However, you just said it is impossible to climb up the ladder.

2018-06-02 22:23:03 UTC  

Which is it?

They use neoliberalism to keep the poor poor while perpetuate a myth of entirely self made people

2018-06-02 22:23:20 UTC  

If the CEO dies without a child or anything, do you think the business would just stop?

2018-06-02 22:23:33 UTC  

Of course not, it would do one of two things:

The next bourgeoisie guy comes in

2018-06-02 22:23:48 UTC  

Proletariat bourgeoisie

2018-06-02 22:23:50 UTC  

A: Go to the next highest rank.
or
B: A company council would vote on the next CEO.

You arent proletariat if you extract surplus value

2018-06-02 22:24:15 UTC  

It's not as if an heirless CEO ends his business upon death, because a company is not reliant upon hereditary succession.

2018-06-02 22:24:16 UTC  

^

2018-06-02 22:24:19 UTC  

This is not feudalism.

Again does the CEO do all the work?

2018-06-02 22:24:32 UTC  

Again, how does one become CEO?

It doesnt matter

2018-06-02 22:24:51 UTC  

It sure does, you don't become a CEO for doing nothing.

If they do not do all the work

2018-06-02 22:25:05 UTC  

The CEO provides and without providing there would be no work.

They arent entitled to all the labour

2018-06-02 22:25:13 UTC  

The CEO works to provide

2018-06-02 22:25:16 UTC  

So if the CEO doesn't do 100% of all the work of the workers, it's capitalism doomed to fail?

But the poor have no option but to sell their labour

2018-06-02 22:25:29 UTC  

Interesting, considering a business ran by workers does not have 100% of the work done by 1 person.

2018-06-02 22:25:37 UTC  

By that logic, even communism is doomed to fail.

2018-06-02 22:25:39 UTC  

>surplus value

2018-06-02 22:25:43 UTC  

Which leads me to believe this logic is invalid.

2018-06-02 22:26:06 UTC  

The average CEO makes roughly 200 times the wage of an average employee, by adding 0 times the value. When you have a board of directors making decisions regarding executive pay, funded largely through options and amounting to a CEO-to-Worker pay ratio of something in the range of 347-to-1, you know there's a problem.

Just because some people become rich under capitalism does not mean they do not extract surplus value

Also hang on a second