If the company can still function, there is always a ladder somewhere.

That's why only the strongest will make it out on top

Then it will start over

Then I have to repeat my question, Karde:

The strongest lol

How do you become a CEO?

Well a lot of the wealthiest people inherited

If it's impossible to climb the ladder like you say, clearly you saying "they climbed the ladder" doesn't apply.

Some capital already

You've just contradicted your earlier argument.

I said they pull it up

I asked you the same question earlier, you said they worked up the ladder to CEO. However, you just said it is impossible to climb up the ladder.

Which is it?

They use neoliberalism to keep the poor poor while perpetuate a myth of entirely self made people

If the CEO dies without a child or anything, do you think the business would just stop?

Of course not, it would do one of two things:

The next bourgeoisie guy comes in

Proletariat bourgeoisie

A: Go to the next highest rank.
or
B: A company council would vote on the next CEO.

You arent proletariat if you extract surplus value

It's not as if an heirless CEO ends his business upon death, because a company is not reliant upon hereditary succession.

^

This is not feudalism.

Again does the CEO do all the work?

Again, how does one become CEO?

It doesnt matter

It sure does, you don't become a CEO for doing nothing.

If they do not do all the work

The CEO provides and without providing there would be no work.

They arent entitled to all the labour

The CEO works to provide

So if the CEO doesn't do 100% of all the work of the workers, it's capitalism doomed to fail?

But the poor have no option but to sell their labour

Interesting, considering a business ran by workers does not have 100% of the work done by 1 person.

By that logic, even communism is doomed to fail.

>surplus value

Which leads me to believe this logic is invalid.

The average CEO makes roughly 200 times the wage of an average employee, by adding 0 times the value. When you have a board of directors making decisions regarding executive pay, funded largely through options and amounting to a CEO-to-Worker pay ratio of something in the range of 347-to-1, you know there's a problem.

Just because some people become rich under capitalism does not mean they do not extract surplus value

Also hang on a second