Message from @Perpetual Moral Imbalance

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2018-06-02 22:19:34 UTC  

Has the CEO not provided hard and efficient work to earn such a position?

2018-06-02 22:19:43 UTC  

It's not as if you get a job and the next day you're CEO.

Do they do all the work in the business

2018-06-02 22:20:09 UTC  

Does 1 individual worker do all the work in a business ran by workers?

If they do all the work in a business they are entitled to all the labour

2018-06-02 22:20:13 UTC  

*No, they don't.*

2018-06-02 22:20:14 UTC  

But you said people climb the corporate ladder meaning ceos lose there position so if you work you take CEO

2018-06-02 22:20:37 UTC  

The soon to be CEO climbed the ladder that the now CEO climbed, but the now CEO pulled up the ladder

2018-06-02 22:20:41 UTC  

Precisely what I am saying, RJB.

But they also keep the poor poor through neoliberalism

2018-06-02 22:20:46 UTC  

You don't become CEO by sitting around and doing nothing.

2018-06-02 22:20:58 UTC  

Eh

Well you extract the surplus labour of others

2018-06-02 22:21:09 UTC  

But the soon to be CEO still climbed the ladder

So you get super rich off others working for you

2018-06-02 22:21:22 UTC  

If that were the case Benny, the company would collapse as there no longer is a ladder.

But it is literally impossible for everyone to climb the ladder under capitalism

2018-06-02 22:21:39 UTC  

If the company can still function, there is always a ladder somewhere.

2018-06-02 22:21:48 UTC  

That's why only the strongest will make it out on top

2018-06-02 22:21:56 UTC  

Then it will start over

2018-06-02 22:21:57 UTC  

Then I have to repeat my question, Karde:

The strongest lol

2018-06-02 22:22:02 UTC  

How do you become a CEO?

Well a lot of the wealthiest people inherited

2018-06-02 22:22:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450683222653796353/452597848924487680/abb.png

2018-06-02 22:22:21 UTC  

If it's impossible to climb the ladder like you say, clearly you saying "they climbed the ladder" doesn't apply.

Some capital already

2018-06-02 22:22:26 UTC  

You've just contradicted your earlier argument.

I said they pull it up

2018-06-02 22:23:02 UTC  

I asked you the same question earlier, you said they worked up the ladder to CEO. However, you just said it is impossible to climb up the ladder.

2018-06-02 22:23:03 UTC  

Which is it?

They use neoliberalism to keep the poor poor while perpetuate a myth of entirely self made people

2018-06-02 22:23:20 UTC  

If the CEO dies without a child or anything, do you think the business would just stop?

2018-06-02 22:23:33 UTC  

Of course not, it would do one of two things:

The next bourgeoisie guy comes in

2018-06-02 22:23:48 UTC  

Proletariat bourgeoisie

2018-06-02 22:23:50 UTC  

A: Go to the next highest rank.
or
B: A company council would vote on the next CEO.

You arent proletariat if you extract surplus value

2018-06-02 22:24:15 UTC  

It's not as if an heirless CEO ends his business upon death, because a company is not reliant upon hereditary succession.

2018-06-02 22:24:16 UTC  

^

2018-06-02 22:24:19 UTC  

This is not feudalism.