Message from @mcstubbs
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Counter productive no?
the fact that anarchism can be a party...
You keep excusing massive failures and genocides with “oh it wasn’t real communism” and “it was a small price too pay”
But you just face the facts that it simply cannot be achieved, otherwise it would have been achieved by now.
but it has been
Where?
Where has it been achieved?
Vietnam? Nope
Laos? No
Ethiopia? Definately NOT
China? Fell back on capitalism
the cnt-fai in the spanish civil war, for one
in vietnam 99% of the population believes the free market is good according to pew
Why thanks for that info
democratic socialism in allende's chile and dubcek's czechoslovakia
Where has fascism been achieved?
communes in europe during the 1848 revolutions
the paris commune
>Allende's Chile
He was voted in with 36% of the vote
Paris Commune quickly fell apart
In a matter of months actually
it didn't fall apart, it was invaded
When Pinochet had a final vote on whether he should leave or stay, 44% of the population voted for him to stay.
because all the leftists got offed.
The military dictator that overthrew the "democratic socialist" government was more popular than the fucking democratic socialist
Chile is a nation with 18 million people
They would have needed to kill millions of people to have a result
Not above communists
That’s a simple price to pay
most death counts are vastly overblown and arose due to various factors beyond their control
and even if they did kill all of those people with their dirty, grubby hands
what about capitalism's death toll?
right, the governments under capitalism killed many people
That has existed for hundreds of years versus decades
I'm sure you're gonna include heart disease on the same level as being sent to a gulag and frozen to death
You call causing a famine or killing your own people because they refused to give you their cows factors they cant control
Havig tanks run over villahes for refusal to believe in the communist party
Or just killing anyone against it