Message from @Papa Tarbear
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He was voted in with 36% of the vote
yes, due to divisions in the other major parties
Paris Commune quickly fell apart
In a matter of months actually
it didn't fall apart, it was invaded
When Pinochet had a final vote on whether he should leave or stay, 44% of the population voted for him to stay.
because all the leftists got offed.
The military dictator that overthrew the "democratic socialist" government was more popular than the fucking democratic socialist
Chile is a nation with 18 million people
They would have needed to kill millions of people to have a result
Not above communists
That’s a simple price to pay
most death counts are vastly overblown and arose due to various factors beyond their control
and even if they did kill all of those people with their dirty, grubby hands
what about capitalism's death toll?
right, the governments under capitalism killed many people
That has existed for hundreds of years versus decades
I'm sure you're gonna include heart disease on the same level as being sent to a gulag and frozen to death
You call causing a famine or killing your own people because they refused to give you their cows factors they cant control
Or just killing anyone against it
How
Will they
Recover
i never said that i agreed with authoritarian measures. but when capitalism needed tweaking, we didn't throw it out, did we?
limiting the reach of the market is not the same as implementing a system as autistic as communism
The thing is Capitalism can work when changed
It is run by a market and the people
so can socialism, when the government represents the interests of the people
right
since when do fascists care about things being run by the people?
Tfw you’re a commie but don’t want a totalitarian
By it’s nature Capitalism is constantly shifting
when it benefits the national interest it can be very healthy
Thats what fascism is about ^
but it still reflects the same core values of people with the most capital obtaining more and more capital and having a stranglehold on the means of production.
capitalism, i mean.
a small business owner is not strangling the hold on the means of production
I think he’s talking about the larger companies
that i am.