Message from @Papa Tarbear

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2018-05-29 04:42:32 UTC  

He was voted in with 36% of the vote

2018-05-29 04:42:42 UTC  

yes, due to divisions in the other major parties

2018-05-29 04:42:48 UTC  

Paris Commune quickly fell apart

2018-05-29 04:42:57 UTC  

In a matter of months actually

2018-05-29 04:42:59 UTC  

it didn't fall apart, it was invaded

2018-05-29 04:42:59 UTC  

When Pinochet had a final vote on whether he should leave or stay, 44% of the population voted for him to stay.

2018-05-29 04:43:15 UTC  

because all the leftists got offed.

2018-05-29 04:43:40 UTC  

The military dictator that overthrew the "democratic socialist" government was more popular than the fucking democratic socialist

2018-05-29 04:43:59 UTC  

Chile is a nation with 18 million people

2018-05-29 04:44:14 UTC  

They would have needed to kill millions of people to have a result

2018-05-29 04:44:28 UTC  

Not above communists

2018-05-29 04:44:39 UTC  

That’s a simple price to pay

2018-05-29 04:45:29 UTC  

most death counts are vastly overblown and arose due to various factors beyond their control

2018-05-29 04:45:43 UTC  

and even if they did kill all of those people with their dirty, grubby hands

2018-05-29 04:45:49 UTC  

what about capitalism's death toll?

2018-05-29 04:46:04 UTC  

right, the governments under capitalism killed many people

2018-05-29 04:46:10 UTC  

That has existed for hundreds of years versus decades

2018-05-29 04:46:22 UTC  

I'm sure you're gonna include heart disease on the same level as being sent to a gulag and frozen to death

2018-05-29 04:46:24 UTC  

You call causing a famine or killing your own people because they refused to give you their cows factors they cant control

2018-05-29 04:47:04 UTC  

Havig tanks run over villahes for refusal to believe in the communist party

2018-05-29 04:47:11 UTC  

Or just killing anyone against it

2018-05-29 04:47:29 UTC  

How

2018-05-29 04:47:31 UTC  

Will they

2018-05-29 04:47:33 UTC  

Recover

2018-05-29 04:47:46 UTC  

i never said that i agreed with authoritarian measures. but when capitalism needed tweaking, we didn't throw it out, did we?

2018-05-29 04:48:34 UTC  

limiting the reach of the market is not the same as implementing a system as autistic as communism

2018-05-29 04:48:39 UTC  

The thing is Capitalism can work when changed

2018-05-29 04:48:48 UTC  

It is run by a market and the people

2018-05-29 04:48:59 UTC  

so can socialism, when the government represents the interests of the people

2018-05-29 04:49:04 UTC  

right

2018-05-29 04:49:11 UTC  

since when do fascists care about things being run by the people?

2018-05-29 04:49:14 UTC  

Tfw you’re a commie but don’t want a totalitarian

2018-05-29 04:49:22 UTC  

By it’s nature Capitalism is constantly shifting

2018-05-29 04:49:40 UTC  

when it benefits the national interest it can be very healthy

2018-05-29 04:49:59 UTC  

Thats what fascism is about ^

2018-05-29 04:50:08 UTC  

but it still reflects the same core values of people with the most capital obtaining more and more capital and having a stranglehold on the means of production.

2018-05-29 04:50:16 UTC  

capitalism, i mean.

2018-05-29 04:50:27 UTC  

a small business owner is not strangling the hold on the means of production

2018-05-29 04:50:44 UTC  

I think he’s talking about the larger companies

2018-05-29 04:50:49 UTC  

that i am.