Message from @Mitch

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2018-05-30 02:55:24 UTC  

Karde I think you might actually be brain dead

2018-05-30 02:56:04 UTC  

@Grugochet No, that isn't what I think. I believe having all the necessary munitions with which to wage war is what being "fully-equipped" means.

They only had numerical supremacy really in 1943 when germans were in near full retreat

2018-05-30 02:56:38 UTC  

what does that even mean?

Which means they didnt need to use human wave tactics then wtf

2018-05-30 02:56:41 UTC  

i have seem to hit a dead end

2018-05-30 02:56:42 UTC  

All hail the German tanks the Panzer reigns supreme

2018-05-30 02:56:52 UTC  

i need an account to view where the source comes from

2018-05-30 02:56:53 UTC  

the necessary munitions to wage war?

2018-05-30 02:56:55 UTC  

its from some university

2018-05-30 02:57:00 UTC  

Oof

2018-05-30 02:57:09 UTC  

you can have men underequipped and still have the necessary munitions to wage war

2018-05-30 02:57:24 UTC  

The Germans knew how to make great tanks

2018-05-30 02:58:00 UTC  

that was one of the causes of the germans downfall is they made to many tank designs

2018-05-30 02:58:06 UTC  

it cost to much to upkeep

2018-05-30 02:58:23 UTC  

They should have kept with the current designs due to the fact it worked so well

2018-05-30 02:58:27 UTC  

another reason is the generals tended to disobey hitlers orders and a aura of distrust and shit

2018-05-30 02:58:39 UTC  

@GermanEastAfrica Actually, the Tiger II was superior to the Panzer.

2018-05-30 02:58:49 UTC  

didn't help that a few surprise attacks happened and the morale of the german army was low from the cold of russia

2018-05-30 02:59:11 UTC  

Like i think the germans got encircled from the soviets i forget what battle it was

2018-05-30 02:59:12 UTC  

I know, the Panzer just came to mind first @Deleted User

2018-05-30 02:59:26 UTC  

Stalingrad?

2018-05-30 02:59:32 UTC  

that might be it

2018-05-30 02:59:44 UTC  

anyways a lot surrendered cause of it

Wtf another barbarosa myth

2018-05-30 03:00:12 UTC  

The Soviet tanks were technically inferior, but there was a lot of them so it kind of neutralized the field

2018-05-30 03:00:16 UTC  

Stalingrad was caused due to Hitler moving the tank divisions down to the Caucasus to secure oil.

2018-05-30 03:00:26 UTC  

And thus the infantry didn't have tank support.

2018-05-30 03:00:29 UTC  

So they got encircled.

2018-05-30 03:00:32 UTC  

And then fucked.

2018-05-30 03:00:36 UTC  

i dont think the germans would of won even if they had coats to protect from the cold

2018-05-30 03:00:39 UTC  

Kind of like a Sparta vs Persia deal

2018-05-30 03:00:56 UTC  

not to say the soviets where good at war or what ever

2018-05-30 03:01:06 UTC  

it's just the circumstances where not good for germany

2018-05-30 03:01:12 UTC  

I think they could have, the German army was superior at the time, the main saving grace of the Soviets was the weather

2018-05-30 03:01:14 UTC  

they where under supplied

Artic cold also thwatedthe soviets

2018-05-30 03:01:15 UTC  

Stalingrad, November 22, 1942. Red Army trapped around 250k Germans on the Don River.

But in fact, the Germans were able to ward off the Soviet attacks during these incredibly low temperature days. On 6 December, in a record minus 38 degrees below zero, German 9th Army counter-attacked at Kalinin with heavy support from Panzergruppe 3 [Panzer Group 3, a tank army consisting of several corps] and pushed back Soviet 31st Army across River Volga again. In the process, Soviet 250th Rifle Division was completely routed and had to be withdrawn from combat.

Between 5 and 7 December, the German High Command reported that the Soviet attacks in general were warded off.  “We failed during the first days,” admitted Zhukov, the most acclaimed Soviet military commander of the Second World War.

2018-05-30 03:02:07 UTC  

the main issues with the germans was lack of oil