Message from @Mitch
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@Perpetual Moral Imbalance The point is that they weren't underequipped. At least not for much of the war, anyway.
um what
"Nazi propaganda nurtured the image of Germans fighting against “innumerable masses from the East”, but this is just a racist propaganda. In actual fact, the war on the Eastern Front in 1941 was characterised by a Soviet inferiority in pure numbers. On 22 June 1941, the four Soviet western military districts between the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea had 2.3 million men, opposed to nearly 4.5 million Axis troops. The Wehrmacht had amassed 3.35 million troops. To this the Romanian army contributed 600,000, and in the north, Finland had already mobilised its army and could muster 530,000 men.
When the Red Army counter-attacked at Moscow in December 1941, the Soviet numerical inferiority was even larger. Soviet strength returns in archives show that on 1 December 1941, the Soviets were able to muster 576,500 soldiers and 574 tanks against German Army Group Centre – which at the time had between 1.9 and 1.2 million troops with 1,800 tanks and assault guns. The Germans not only enjoyed a three-fold numerical superiority in tanks, but of the Soviet tanks employed against them at Moscow, only around 30 per cent were T-34s or KVs, with the remainder being completely obsolete tankettes.
As the war continued, the Germans gradually lost their numerical superiority – which reflects the greater Soviet industrial capacity – but their most brilliant victories in 1941 were achieved with a convincing numerical superiority."
Do you know what underequipped means?
@Grugochet Yeah, do you?
you seem to think that giving someone a gun means they're fully equipped
Yes the ussr used human wave tactics when they had a smaller force
lol
Karde I think you might actually be brain dead
@Grugochet No, that isn't what I think. I believe having all the necessary munitions with which to wage war is what being "fully-equipped" means.
They only had numerical supremacy really in 1943 when germans were in near full retreat
what does that even mean?
Which means they didnt need to use human wave tactics then wtf
i have seem to hit a dead end
All hail the German tanks the Panzer reigns supreme
i need an account to view where the source comes from
the necessary munitions to wage war?
its from some university
Oof
you can have men underequipped and still have the necessary munitions to wage war
The Germans knew how to make great tanks
that was one of the causes of the germans downfall is they made to many tank designs
it cost to much to upkeep
They should have kept with the current designs due to the fact it worked so well
another reason is the generals tended to disobey hitlers orders and a aura of distrust and shit
@GermanEastAfrica Actually, the Tiger II was superior to the Panzer.
didn't help that a few surprise attacks happened and the morale of the german army was low from the cold of russia
Like i think the germans got encircled from the soviets i forget what battle it was
I know, the Panzer just came to mind first @Deleted User
Stalingrad?
that might be it
anyways a lot surrendered cause of it
Wtf another barbarosa myth
The Soviet tanks were technically inferior, but there was a lot of them so it kind of neutralized the field
Stalingrad was caused due to Hitler moving the tank divisions down to the Caucasus to secure oil.
And thus the infantry didn't have tank support.
So they got encircled.
And then fucked.
i dont think the germans would of won even if they had coats to protect from the cold