Message from @Moltres

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I dont hate anarchist i just think their theory doesnt account for capitalist encirlent

Also like imagine while your baking your cake someone comes in to sabotage it any way they can to prove your cake making technique will never work

That's basically imperialism

Poor molt

goes straight from arguing with white nationals to communists

2018-05-30 04:59:08 UTC  

I'm not arguing with them anymore

ik lol

2018-05-30 04:59:14 UTC  

I'm learning the ways of marxism

2018-05-30 04:59:21 UTC  

I don't think their theory accounts for capitalists period, when taken to it's logical conclusion that is. To think that the world will immediately go communist after a worldwide revolution is nothing more than a pipedream.

you just always surrounded by "extremists"

2018-05-30 04:59:46 UTC  

I mean

Tbh i like the cake analogy to socialism vs communism a lot xP

2018-05-30 05:00:46 UTC  

Nearly every time a communist state has been established there has been some sort of conflict before the state could actually be established

2018-05-30 05:00:47 UTC  

Lol

Yes moltres

I.e finland

2018-05-30 05:01:04 UTC  

The only exceptions I can think of are the USSR satelite states

2018-05-30 05:01:14 UTC  

some of them

Hang on there

2018-05-30 05:01:15 UTC  

nm

When most of the world is supporting the white army

2018-05-30 05:02:28 UTC  

ik about that

2018-05-30 05:02:33 UTC  

@Moltres That is a contradiction in terms, but I understand the point you're trying to make. There is no such thing as a "communist state" as communism is inherently stateless, and cannot be contained within the boundaries of a nation-state framework. A state can be Socialist though.

I avoid that all together and just say dictatorship of the proleteriat

2018-05-30 05:03:28 UTC  

So did the Soviet Union never come out of it's "transition period" so to say between capitalism and pure communism due to the central government existing?

2018-05-30 05:03:47 UTC  

@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 DoTP isn't something most non-communists will be privy to though.

USSR never got past baking, someone burnt the cake

2018-05-30 05:04:26 UTC  

So they were never truly communist?

2018-05-30 05:05:07 UTC  

Have there ever been any "pure" communist societies that actually followed through with the baking process?

No because the baking processs takes a long time

2018-05-30 05:06:10 UTC  

Learn our ways and join us ❤️

2018-05-30 05:07:01 UTC  

@Moltres No, however there have been societies which have operated under what's known as "primitive communism".

@Moltres marx really got the idea of communism from two different places first dialetics and second primitive communism

Marx famous phrase is history repeats itself first as a farce and then as a tragedy etc he was quoting hegel

Communism is like an advamced form of primitive communism

Why did marx think it would happen? Because the master/slave dialetic is what marx believes drives change and if there are no masters nor slaves then we have reached the final mode of production

2018-05-30 05:09:13 UTC  

@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 Well, first as tragedy, then as farce.* lol