just because the socialists use it

and the bourgeoisie use it

doesn't mean how they use it is anyway related

LeagueofJabbers: "You have the right to be exploited by the "few". Their right to greatly enrich themselves at your expense should not be infringed upon."

epic

it really is, they use it to enforce their own interests or ideals

Ad hominem attack, fyi, @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 , it is a very large logical fallacy, calling names does nothing to strengthen the point.

we have no ideals

i call an idiot if i see an idiot 👍🏿 learn marxist theory before you talk shit about socialism or communism

they aren't ideals but observations, understandings, etc for socialism, communism, historical materialism, dialetical materialism etc.

the interests though?

the class in a socialist society who rules is the proleteriat

is it really that hard to read a book like say the principles of communism?

how could one not understand liberalism? thats a pretty low bar you set

@LoJ You don't even have a rudimentary understanding of Marxist theory. NOTHING you say in regards to socialism is of any merit whatsoever.

oof

"more wrong"

liberals and fascists are equally misguided in different ways

the fascists are just much smarter in how they misguide others liberals aren't

the first tactic is disguising as a labour party 👍🏿 co-opting the socialist/communist movement

You want me to quote Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels? (something that has been failed to be addressed, the Communist Manifesto wasn't solely authored by Marx.) Let me quote, "The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production" So, the methods of production shall never be improved?

why are people laughing the nazis and mussolini's party did this 😆

How do liberals misguide others?

```Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism… How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist!``` -adolf hitler yeet

SOCIALISM IS ANTISEMITIC YEET

there are more forms of socialism than just how marx the unemployed fucker defined it fam

proof communists are racist @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼

there's utopian socialism

@LoJ Who made the claim that it was? Nobody. And you do realize that Marxist theory doesn't end with the Manifesto, right? You taking a quote from there out of context is nothing more than an act of desperation which doesn't help your case one bit.

then marxism socialism

get owned democRAT

all other forms of socialism are dmb

they're fronts for capitalism

NaTioNaL SocIAlIsM

Nazis do not fundamentally change society as they do not resolve the contradiction between the bourgeoisie and the proleteriat

It was the NAtional Socialist Worker's Party

@Mr.AnalTwister4000 >unemployed

Yeah, because being employed by various news agencies is unemployment, right?

HOLY FUCKING SHIT UR MAKING THAT ARGUMENT

socialism is internationalist

how can you have 'national socialism'

**looks at @notjojo wtf**