Message from @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼

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it is idealistic

religion isn't rooted in material conditions

it have to created idealistic myths

2018-05-31 21:27:04 UTC  

Ok how the hell do you commies expect to even keep your hypothetical communist society

2018-05-31 21:27:10 UTC  

Let alone acquire

2018-05-31 21:27:12 UTC  

False news that comes from who's government? RUSSIAS

2018-05-31 21:27:12 UTC  

^

2018-05-31 21:27:34 UTC  

Also how are any of those countries democratic (not that I support democracy)

jfc when people ask question they coudl get out of marx or engels

2018-05-31 21:27:45 UTC  

Also, you seem to think that just because you don’t believe in religion that it doesn’t exist or that no god comes from it

2018-05-31 21:27:48 UTC  

The United States has survived through two foreign invasions and a civil war. It is through its dedication to the Constitution and its amendments that it has been allowed to stand since 1776. From the beginning of its near nil shot of being able to revolt successfully and onward, the United States has fought an uphill battle dedicated towards the ideals of freedom and liberty and through the sacrifices of many, it still stands, democracy might be imperfect and flawed and abusable but it's the best thing to have occurred for the world, to finally have a shining city upon the hill.

2018-05-31 21:28:01 UTC  

Obviously you know so much about Marx why don't you summarize it for me

```It is impossible, of course, to carry out all these measures at once. But one will always bring others in its wake. Once the first radical attack on private property has been launched, the proletariat will find itself forced to go ever further, to concentrate increasingly in the hands of the state all capital, all agriculture, all transport, all trade. All the foregoing measures are directed to this end; and they will become practicable and feasible, capable of producing their centralizing effects to precisely the degree that the proletariat, through its labor, multiplies the country’s productive forces.

Finally, when all capital, all production, all exchange have been brought together in the hands of the nation, private property will disappear of its own accord, money will become superfluous, and production will so expand and man so change that society will be able to slough off whatever of its old economic habits may remain.```

-engels principle of communism

2018-05-31 21:28:38 UTC  

Bad

2018-05-31 21:28:41 UTC  

^

2018-05-31 21:29:06 UTC  

DotP being

2018-05-31 21:29:11 UTC  

I heard it once before

read it

2018-05-31 21:29:18 UTC  

@GermanEastAfrica The Communists don't actually give a reason behind why they believe God does not exist, it's more of a defence of Atheism without any backing.

2018-05-31 21:29:22 UTC  

Read the manifesto it takes 30min and it's self explanatory

2018-05-31 21:29:23 UTC  

Communists believe that when someone works for something that it's now everyones

2018-05-31 21:29:40 UTC  

Lol

2018-05-31 21:29:43 UTC  

True tho

@Scipio god entails a spirit, sprits are immaterial, marxists are materialistic, therefore religion is idealistic and a spook.

2018-05-31 21:29:50 UTC  

@Scipio it’s because they want to achieve maximum edge levels

2018-05-31 21:29:58 UTC  

Workers makes the production, not owners

2018-05-31 21:30:02 UTC  

Get a grip

2018-05-31 21:30:10 UTC  

No Workers, no production

2018-05-31 21:30:11 UTC  

You're applying a man made Ideology with the creator of the Universe.

You don't ask a pharoah how his pyramid was build

you ask the slave/worker

2018-05-31 21:30:15 UTC  

@notjojo even if the proletariats still have this supposed power, an authoritarian will rise and take power anyhow

because the slave

built it

2018-05-31 21:30:24 UTC  

all commies are nihilistic utopians

2018-05-31 21:30:27 UTC  

prove me wrong

2018-05-31 21:30:34 UTC  

Nihilistic