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@ajsbeast im quoting engels here
"Finally, the third category consists of democratic socialists who favor some of the same measures the communists advocate, as described in Question 18, not as part of the transition to communism, however, but as measures which they believe will be sufficient to abolish the misery and evils of present-day society
These democratic socialists are either proletarians who are not yet sufficiently clear about the conditions of the liberation of their class, or they are representatives of the petty bourgeoisie, a class which, prior to the achievement of democracy and the socialist measures to which it gives rise, has many interests in common with the proletariat.
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Bernie was one of the few candidates that actually wanted to help comrades, but because he wasn't an extremist we should write him off.
a private company should have the choice to serve whoever they want
Ajs read engels word common policy is fine with democratic socialist if it is not in support of the bourgeoisie class
@notjojo vc thot
Taoism is cool
@Benny_Boi (weeb hunter) u miss spelt MAOISM
that makes sense, I don't think the bourgeoise support any degree of socialism, but they'll resist it incrementally less than instant revolution.
My problem is that bernie comes off as Keynesian and only implementing these policies as a means to appease the workers which is nice but not a fight towards the socialist goal of democratic ownership of the means of Production
I agree, but I'd rather have decent unions than our current state.
and he was one of the only people who supported that.
Im in support of unions i guess
he wanted to make the proletariat satisfied, there is no wrong in that.
I mean bismarck?
Bismarck was the guy who used social democracy to crush leftist movement
Wait
By Bismarck do you mean Otto?
John Maynard Keynes only took it on as a mesns to rectify the class stuggle in the post ww2 UK
Oh nice
Imma look into this
So socialism could not get a foothold
@ajsbeast my problem with worker apeasement is when it is not in the interest of democratic socialism like Bismarck or Keynes
Just a temporary tool to keep the bourgeoisie in power only to be reversed by austerity later.
@notjojo it's 2am cant be asked to vc lol
Seems aight
So,
What are everyones thoughts on taoism?
Bismarck i respect as the smartest conservative @Benny_Boi (weeb hunter)
He seems pretty cool
I've always liked him but never heard that until now
Wtf
Bismarck banned leftist parties
How is that not common knowledge lol
I knew that
And he hated Catholics
Yeah but you dont ban the commie party with zero resistance
I never knew he was a democratic socialist
Social democrat