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Ajs read engels word common policy is fine with democratic socialist if it is not in support of the bourgeoisie class

2018-06-01 01:26:24 UTC  

@notjojo vc thot

2018-06-01 01:26:36 UTC  

Taoism is cool

2018-06-01 01:26:56 UTC  

that makes sense, I don't think the bourgeoise support any degree of socialism, but they'll resist it incrementally less than instant revolution.

My problem is that bernie comes off as Keynesian and only implementing these policies as a means to appease the workers which is nice but not a fight towards the socialist goal of democratic ownership of the means of Production

2018-06-01 01:28:51 UTC  

I agree, but I'd rather have decent unions than our current state.

2018-06-01 01:29:02 UTC  

and he was one of the only people who supported that.

Im in support of unions i guess

2018-06-01 01:29:15 UTC  

he wanted to make the proletariat satisfied, there is no wrong in that.

I mean bismarck?

Bismarck was the guy who used social democracy to crush leftist movement

2018-06-01 01:29:57 UTC  

Wait

2018-06-01 01:30:06 UTC  

By Bismarck do you mean Otto?

John Maynard Keynes only took it on as a mesns to rectify the class stuggle in the post ww2 UK

2018-06-01 01:30:32 UTC  

Oh nice

Bismarck supported social democracy

2018-06-01 01:30:44 UTC  
2018-06-01 01:30:46 UTC  

Imma look into this

So socialism could not get a foothold

@ajsbeast my problem with worker apeasement is when it is not in the interest of democratic socialism like Bismarck or Keynes

Just a temporary tool to keep the bourgeoisie in power only to be reversed by austerity later.

@notjojo it's 2am cant be asked to vc lol

2018-06-01 01:36:39 UTC  

Seems aight

2018-06-01 01:36:41 UTC  

So,

2018-06-01 01:36:59 UTC  

What are everyones thoughts on taoism?

Bismarck i respect as the smartest conservative @Benny_Boi (weeb hunter)

2018-06-01 01:37:20 UTC  

He seems pretty cool

2018-06-01 01:37:31 UTC  

I've always liked him but never heard that until now

Bismarck banned leftist parties

How is that not common knowledge lol

2018-06-01 01:38:03 UTC  

I knew that

2018-06-01 01:38:11 UTC  

And he hated Catholics

Yeah but you dont ban the commie party with zero resistance

2018-06-01 01:38:25 UTC  

I never knew he was a democratic socialist

Social democrat

2018-06-01 01:38:41 UTC  

Or, a state socialist

2018-06-01 01:38:47 UTC  

Aorry

Social democrat =/= democratic socialist