Message from @fen
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Not you
Common consensus? Seriously?
but you can't prove that do
you can only agree upon definitions
Ok, give me your definition of socialism Adoring
When the government do stuff
this tbh
whatcha doing here anfash
It is a spectrum. Many varied systems can be consideref socialistic, key traits involve public ownership of industry as well as equity.
Arena gang came in through LP
Cirno tagged us all in there
@svpreme
>socialism is when the gov does stuff
>every gov does stuff
>conclusion: every country is socialist
Nigga
Ofc
lol
wtf I love socialism now
well I got in through an invite that was sent in LP aswell
LP?
To abide by marxist logic is to state that Proudhon and the Chartists were not socialists
When they clearly were
Yet did not wholly advocate for the total ownership of the means of production
@fen exactly
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Proudhon was an anarchist
I didn't say that Marx invented socialism
In fact he admitted it himself
But socialist system invented by Marx is the only socialist system that has worked atm
inb4 muh communism doesn't work
He was a libertarian socialist @Advocatus Diaboli
it works, but it doesn't hold up to marx claims
That's what you call him
>has worked
???
he claimed that socialism was the most efficient way to allocate resources and that claim clearly hasn't proved itself
He called himself that lmao
compared to a free market
Market Socialism
@fen cue BUT MUH EXPLOITATION
If you can solve issues with planning
Its really good