Message from @svpreme

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so basically they say they will fight racism, inequality, sexism, etc
while preserving the system that perpetuates the culture that create these social relations.
Ahh jeez there's a word for that... Virtue signalling.

2018-06-16 19:12:26 UTC  

its like in a capitalist context left wing

2018-06-16 19:13:25 UTC  

yeah theyre naive no matter how things work

"in a capitalist context left wing."
The dichotomy between 'the state' and 'capitalism' is a false one
Capitalism can use the state to further its goals because the state is only a tool
hence we arrive at state monopoly capitalism.

2018-06-16 19:14:15 UTC  

further its goals in what way

>imperialism (iraq, syria, libya)
>globalization of capitalism

2018-06-16 19:15:27 UTC  

yeah but thats more of an analysis of how things play out

What's good for the military industrial complex, is good for America.

2018-06-16 19:16:17 UTC  

people still believe in the dichotomy

so people are deluded?

or mistaken

2018-06-16 19:16:36 UTC  

and arguably at least if those on the free market side were in power

2018-06-16 19:16:47 UTC  

they are anti interventionist

2018-06-16 19:16:59 UTC  

at least were

you can't have a 'non global' capitalist economic system.

what the hell is 'capitalism in one country'

2018-06-16 19:17:27 UTC  

paleoconservatism with like

2018-06-16 19:17:35 UTC  

trade

2018-06-16 19:17:53 UTC  

maybe protectionism idk specifically in what they believe there

Free trade is done in a way that keeps the third-world poor
and the first world rich, The west literally engineered a return to primary commodity exports in Africa using 'free market policy'

2018-06-16 19:18:44 UTC  

whether or not it could be accomplished i think paleocons oppose outsourcing too

Then they would be anti-capitalist, but they are not.

Outsourcing is a result of the profit motive

there are inherent contradictions in capitalism that you cannot resolve with 'more' capitalism.

2018-06-16 19:19:32 UTC  

they see outsourcing as produced by statism

2018-06-16 19:19:39 UTC  

however true that is

2018-06-16 19:19:58 UTC  

like regulations and allowing them to do it

2018-06-16 19:20:02 UTC  

lack of tariffa

2018-06-16 19:20:06 UTC  

tarrifs*

because that's bad for the profit motive

US workers, and western workers are just too expensive

unless they want to accept a drastic decrease in quality of life they cannot fight the profit motive of capitalism.

2018-06-16 19:20:54 UTC  

like i said they will insist that the costs are made higher by state intervention in markets

2018-06-16 19:21:24 UTC  

maybe there are mises articles on it or somethint

tbh state, utopia, and anarchy is a good book on libertarian philosophy, i'll read it again probably

2018-06-16 19:22:15 UTC  

who is that one by

Robert Nozick

the havard libertarian professor

2018-06-16 19:22:28 UTC  

oh yeah

2018-06-16 19:23:10 UTC  

All these "Blocked Messages" lol

you blocked someone?