@🎃Boo-ton🎃 Wow I've finally learned about the Democrats' stupid "drumpf is a vote suppressor who won through low turnout less votes than Romney" bullshit

thanks

it's not necessarily pure luck because part of the Trump campaign's message helped drive down turnout for Hillary @zakattack04

how

pushing the fact that she's an establishment shill who screwed Bernie over, for one

yeah but they won't make the same mistake again.

it's still luck

it's not a mistake though 😃

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/10/tammy-baldwin-wisconsin-senate-midterms-november-707778

that's a jewish face if i've ever seen one

She’s gay as well I think

Indeed. She is a lesbian atheist.

"The nervousness stems from flashbacks to that 2016 loss and to the belief that Baldwin will again emerge as a top target for late outside spending. Russ Feingold, the former Democratic senator who ran for his old seat in 2016, led Johnson by nearly double digits before a spectacular collapse in the final weeks of the race, triggered in part by a massive influx of conservative dollars. Democrats responded much too late."

I don't think it was "conservative dollars" as much as it was Trump's coattails

100% agree.

Feingold's opponent (Ron Johnson) getting a lot of money in the last few weeks doesn't mean much, especially in a Presidential year. What would he have done with it? Spend more money on ads when most of the attention was on Hillary vs Trump?

I've noticed that a lot of online discussions about the midterms involve this one argument "(red state democrat) can easily beat (Republican opponent) because (red state democrat) has amassed so much more money"

Yeah that's stupid.

Like they think the reason that Obama won his Senate seat was money to some extent but in reality the reason he defeated Alan Keyes was that they were running in fucking Illinois

Though Obama's funding advantage was probably insurmountable for most swing states

Another example is that other black guy in Florida, Alan West I think

Funny they're both named Alan actually

Obabo won because nigger

He had way more money than the Democrat who challenged him but still lost because of Obama's coattails.

Oh no, Obama won all of Illinois, even the most Republican regions.

And his opponent was black

He basically ran as a Mark Kirk tier moderate and used the largest funding advantage in history to win like that though.

@Nuke I was reading up on the 2004 Senate elections the other day, and even watched this 10 hour vid of the election night coverage from CNN on the day of the 2004 election

(coincidentally)

I didn't even know Alan Keyes ran against him in 04 during Obama's run for the Senate in IL. Apparently it was because the Republican candidate dropped out shortly before the election and the GOP needed a replacement, so they went with another black guy

Obama got over 70% of the vote and won many downstate rural counties

Yep.

Obama had an enormous funding advantage.

I wonder how much will money play a part this year

Six weeks later, the Illinois Republican State Central Committee chose former Diplomat Alan Keyes to replace Ryan as the Republican candidate. The election was the first for the U.S. Senate in which both major party candidates were African American. Obama's 43% margin of victory was the largest in the state history of U.S. Senate elections. The inequality in the candidates spending for the fall elections – $14,244,768 by Obama and $2,545,325 by Keyes – is also among the largest in history in both absolute and relative terms.[1]

If it's boring establishment candidate vs boring establishment candidate, then money definitely will make the difference

Arguably money was how Rick Scott managed to eke out a win in 2010 despite his shady background

His opponent, Alex Sink, had almost no ads

Indeed.

Money doesn't matter as much if you have actual support.

Tester has "a big warchest" and I guess that's better than not having any, but I wouldn't be surprised if Rosendale beats him

Agreed.