is that anti-christian?

What the hell do neocons and masons have in common?

No I'm sure when you're drawing pentagrams with the boys in the lodge it's because of the christian connotation

I'm sure

Proud Boys are an Aussie group.

no they are not

They have completely different meanings, purposes, and ideologies

Lol the proud boys are anything but secret or esoteric

they are canadian in origin @Ghawk

founded by Gavin Mcinnes

They're pompous morons led by a sodomite

Secrecy of an organisational kind is generally shunned and is sinful BUT the intention and practices of the organisation are more important.

It's not a condemnation of every fraternal organization

so what are the intentions and practices of the freemasons @[Lex] @Ghawk

Protocommunism, secularism, Kabbalistic ritual, occultism all grew out of the Masonic movement.

proof

"proof"

You

It depends on what you mean by the "freemasons".

<@!401189110213246976> why don't you join in this debate

@Cuckiller To make men closer to God.

i mean people who are of the masonic order @[Lex]

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There's a hierarchy. The vast majority of the lower plebs don't know the meaning of the rituals they perform or the significance of those at the apex.

And there are different masonic orders.

There's Scottish Rite freemasonry, Rosicrucian masonry, Royal Order of Scotland.

Just disregard that the Shriners run a few charitable hospitals.

So did the Mafia.

yes, people do nice things so ignore everything else

lets talk exclusively about scottish right since its the most common in USA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odd_Fellows

Scottish is hardcore Christian.

This is the protocommunist group that grew out of the Masonic tradition.

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I doubt any of you have ever had any exposure to freemasonry, so until you do I don't really care what you say.

From what I can say (I took an oath to not speak about a lot of things) it upholds Christian values and is very charitable in nature.

<@!486959191785865216> I was just made one yesterday.

Taking oaths too.

I took tutoring lessons from them when I was a kid.