Message from @Deleted User

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2018-08-14 15:20:43 UTC  

So this election is unpredictable.

2018-08-14 15:23:04 UTC  

hopefully they vote more in the Democratic Primary which leads to Keith Stern primarying him out

2018-08-15 04:39:02 UTC  

Some stats in the case of Wisconsin - in 2014, the GOP had 240k votes in total in the primaries. In 2018, it had well over 450k.
In 2014, the Democrats had 310k votes in total in the primaries. in 2018, it had well over 530k.
The ratio of D-R in primary votes greatly favours the Republican compared with 2014.
Remember also, Scott Walker had 70k less primary votes in 2014 but tidily won the election with 52.3% to 46.6%.

2018-08-15 04:39:33 UTC  

I'd give Wisconsin a tilt/lean GOP in terms of its governorship.

2018-08-15 04:53:38 UTC  

@[Lex] but democrats are more energized now and will get better turnout for being the party out of power.

2018-08-15 04:57:35 UTC  

Democrats need the independent white vote to win this.

2018-08-15 13:57:31 UTC  

the same pattern keeps holding

Democrats are massively improving from their 2014 numbers, but Republicans are moderately improving

keep in mind that 2014 was a Republican favored year though

2018-08-15 15:46:24 UTC  

The fact that Walker faced a primary challenge will likely hurt his support.

2018-08-15 15:47:05 UTC  

Remember that without the help of #NeverTrumpers who voted for Cruz in the Wisconsin primary, Trump had to rely on Sanders supporters to win Wisconsin in the general.

2018-08-15 15:47:09 UTC  

I don't think Scott Walker can depend on this.

2018-08-15 15:48:11 UTC  

remember that Romney had a higher vote total in Wisconsin than Trump

2018-08-15 15:48:22 UTC  

partly due to suburban voters shifting towards Hillary

2018-08-15 15:48:35 UTC  

Scott Walker has incumbency advantage though

2018-08-15 15:48:46 UTC  

btw, we gotta update the Wordpress for a bunch of states

2018-08-15 15:48:54 UTC  

I haven't changed things in almost two months

2018-08-15 15:49:17 UTC  

we need to do writeups on all the senate and gubernatorial races that have already had their primaries

2018-08-15 17:39:16 UTC  

@Deleted User mostly due to the fact democrats stayed home in Wisconsin.

2018-08-15 17:39:37 UTC  

I think Trump carrying that state was a fluke, it won't happen again if democrats are prepared.

2018-08-15 17:40:12 UTC  

We won that state on their laziness, not because Trump inspired more people to vote for him.

2018-08-15 17:44:53 UTC  

next 2020 Democratic Candidate could also have shit appeal for Wisconsin, like Hillary

2018-08-15 17:45:02 UTC  

they weren't 'lazy' in 2016 for Hillary, they just didn't like her

2018-08-15 17:45:38 UTC  

on the other hand, when it comes to Pennsylvania and Michigan, you do see the "Trump inspiring more people to vote for him" narrative exist

2018-08-15 17:45:48 UTC  

same thing applies to Florida, Ohio, Iowa

2018-08-15 17:45:52 UTC  

all states Romney lost in 2012

2018-08-15 17:46:05 UTC  

Trump didn't even campaign in Wisconsin as much as some others

2018-08-15 18:07:08 UTC  

@Deleted User yeah but those people he appealed to are abandoning him now, Trump approval among whites in all the rust belt states is below 50%.

2018-08-15 18:09:59 UTC  

@zakattack04 that ain't true

2018-08-15 18:11:11 UTC  

@Deleted User it is ;-;

2018-08-15 18:12:06 UTC  

Other thing is she didn’t campaign as good in the rust belt

2018-08-15 18:12:46 UTC  

And most of her supporters thought that she was going to win the election because at the time it looked like she was going to win

2018-08-15 18:14:43 UTC  

Hillary was leading in Wisconsin by 7 according to the polls

2018-08-15 18:17:21 UTC  

@Deleted User Hillary lost by one point in Wisconsin but again she should went back campaign harder then what she did

2018-08-15 18:17:52 UTC  

Can’t always look at polls because they do change a lot

2018-08-15 18:19:54 UTC  

I’m not saying that your wrong or anything i do remember that she was was 7 points but again you can’t tell how turn out is going to be like

2018-08-15 18:43:37 UTC  

it just shows that polling isn't always reliable, and can sometimes be way off

2018-08-15 18:46:22 UTC  

Exactly

2018-08-15 19:06:41 UTC  

@Deleted User But Hilary was ahead of Trump, but the Democrats there were so confident of victory they didn't show up to vote.

2018-08-15 19:06:56 UTC  

We won Wisconsin with luck, Trump lost votes from Romney in WI but won it because Democrats stayed home.

2018-08-15 19:07:14 UTC  

If they decide to show up, Wisconsin goes blue.

2018-08-15 19:09:46 UTC  

That goes back to Voter turn out

2018-08-15 19:10:37 UTC  

We had more voter turn out then we though Democrats didn’t stayed home Zack they didn’t have a turn out like they thought