Message from @[Lex]

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2018-09-12 22:47:57 UTC  

Indeed, lol.

2018-09-12 22:48:10 UTC  

I factored polls into a few of these races actually, but not all.

2018-09-12 22:48:26 UTC  

I think they deliberately wait until an actual polling firm does something, and then they release a new poll close to the election, that's deliberately close to the other poll

2018-09-12 22:48:30 UTC  

Oklahoma is purely poll-based, for instance; its Governor has low approval.

2018-09-12 22:48:49 UTC  

their polls that are held long before an election are probably pulled out of their ey ess ess

2018-09-12 22:49:04 UTC  

Yep.

2018-09-12 22:52:45 UTC  

Emerson, Gravis and various other polls are truly shit.

2018-09-12 22:52:57 UTC  

But Marist, Surveyusa, Rasmussen and so on are more reliable.

2018-09-12 22:54:47 UTC  

I mean if you're going to mark Michigan as a tilt R and Ohio as a likely R, you may as well mark NV as tilt R as well

2018-09-12 22:56:40 UTC  

Nevada is increasingly Hispanic; Trump lost there and the situation has only gotten worse due to liberal Californians entering the state; polls suggest that Heller has a better chance.

2018-09-12 22:58:33 UTC  

Laxalt's the guy running, he's in a political dynasty over there, and he's won over half the polls over there

2018-09-12 22:59:29 UTC  

Definitely a lot more likely he wins than Heller

2018-09-12 23:03:24 UTC  

Regardless, both races are in the margin of error.

2018-09-12 23:03:49 UTC  

(PPP & Laxalt internal polls claim that their respective candidates have exited said margins of error, however.)

2018-09-12 23:04:01 UTC  

Thus, they are tossups**.

2018-09-12 23:04:16 UTC  

Yep, they're tilts.

2018-09-12 23:06:27 UTC  

NV - tossup, AZ tilt-lean GOP, MI tilt-lean Dem, OH tossup, Georgia tossup

2018-09-12 23:07:30 UTC  

Toss-up GA is ridiculous.

2018-09-12 23:08:52 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/445296215161176064/489573141987852288/unknown.png

2018-09-12 23:09:41 UTC  

Arizona voted 3% for Trump after DECADES of voting GOP. The electorate is changing.

2018-09-12 23:10:04 UTC  

I still think Kemp will win but a tilt is inconsistent.

2018-09-12 23:10:15 UTC  

They voted for Clinton in 1996.

2018-09-12 23:10:19 UTC  

apply the same principles to democrats as you do gop

2018-09-12 23:10:31 UTC  

Yes, his was an exception.

2018-09-12 23:11:11 UTC  

Hillary was targetting Arizona heavily in 2016

2018-09-12 23:11:15 UTC  

Yes, also they voted GOP in 1992, and they voted GOP in the Reagan era (1980-1988)

2018-09-12 23:11:41 UTC  

And in 1976, the Democrats ran a guy who had really bad gaffes and lost virtually all of his popularity in the West because he didn't know how to manage Western water in the desert.

2018-09-12 23:11:52 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/445296215161176064/489573894806700042/unknown.png

2018-09-12 23:12:05 UTC  

In 1968 and 1972, the Republicans won in landslides, like in 1980 and 1984.

2018-09-12 23:12:19 UTC  

And Kyrsten Sinema is also possibly flipping one of the senate seats.

2018-09-12 23:12:32 UTC  

So this is changing electorate and based Hispanics aren't voting GOP.

2018-09-12 23:12:32 UTC  

Furthermore, in 1964, the Republicans won because it was the home state of their candidate, who narrowly won Maricopa County.

2018-09-12 23:12:55 UTC  

And in 1960, it was a very close election--which arguably had Nixon win the popular vote

2018-09-12 23:13:11 UTC  

In 1952 and 1956, the GOP won in landslides again, too.

2018-09-12 23:13:22 UTC  

Arizona even voted Goldwater against Johnson.

2018-09-12 23:13:46 UTC  

And Georgia only voted +5 for Trump.

2018-09-12 23:13:51 UTC  

Yeah, and then they elected Goldwater as Senator. Oh yeah, and he was Senator there before that, too.

2018-09-12 23:13:54 UTC  

So what?

2018-09-12 23:14:05 UTC  

It's projected to be plurality black by 2050 and blacks are a high turnout group.

2018-09-12 23:14:16 UTC  

The point is that Georgia being a gubernatorial tossup isn't strange.