I'm sure 1/3 of the people that voted for her voted for "muh first woman president"

and she was super connected

and the media shilled for her 24/7

do you not even remember 2016 ?

Can we agree on someyhing

she was not easy to beat

If Sanders won the nomination

literally the only reason I'm trying to help the GOP win in Congress is because of Trump

Sanders would have won the presidency

I think Trump would have adjusted his strategies to deal with Sanders

Trump stood out the most, he was ascendant, had the populist appeal, he was the only one that could have beat Clinton out of the 17 man field.

you can't really say that

No.

Are you kidding me

No, he wouldn't have.

it's not solely ideology, it's campaign strategy

he could have attacked Bernie over being socialist

He wouldn't get the glass ceiling vote

Sanders has Rust Belt appeal

there are many voters who would have been willing to vote for Hillary, but not Sanders

yeah, but so does Trump

He's popular among young voters

The working class

there are people in Michigan/Wisconsin/Pennsylvania who would be willing to vote Hillary, but not Sanders

White voters

College graduates

Sanders buckles easily under pressure

Ted would have beaten him for God's sake

Ted Cruz would have wiped the floor with him

and isn't so good at debates (Trump's not so good either, but he manages to win in other ways)

Ted definitely beat Sanders in those debates

easily

He's another McGovern

do any of you remember those?

Nobody cares about debates

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 you're overestimating the importance of ideology when it comes to winning elections

What

much of it is due to dealing with the media

allocating funds

Debates are important as fuck

visiting locations