really?

NH too

wtf

that's totally deluded

Listen

I agree with NV, not sure about CO or VA

One of reasons Trump did so well

Is because of clinton

Trump is the only one who would have won, don't kid yourself.

Everyone hated Clinton

every one else would have buckled under the flurry of negative media attention

that's totally ridiculous

I'm not so sure Ted would have beat Clinton actually

Hillary was a particularly strong candidate BECAUSE of all the connections she had

You remember the "glass ceiling" shit?

it's a dumb NeverTrump argument to say "Trump only won becuz Hillary lawl, anyone else would have beat her"

that's not how it works

Hillary had flaws, sure, but she had a shit ton of appeal because of the "muh woman" card

I'm sure 1/3 of the people that voted for her voted for "muh first woman president"

and she was super connected

and the media shilled for her 24/7

do you not even remember 2016 ?

Can we agree on someyhing

she was not easy to beat

If Sanders won the nomination

literally the only reason I'm trying to help the GOP win in Congress is because of Trump

Sanders would have won the presidency

I think Trump would have adjusted his strategies to deal with Sanders

Trump stood out the most, he was ascendant, had the populist appeal, he was the only one that could have beat Clinton out of the 17 man field.

you can't really say that

No.

Are you kidding me

No, he wouldn't have.

it's not solely ideology, it's campaign strategy

he could have attacked Bernie over being socialist

He wouldn't get the glass ceiling vote

Sanders has Rust Belt appeal

there are many voters who would have been willing to vote for Hillary, but not Sanders

yeah, but so does Trump

He's popular among young voters

The working class