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2018-05-23 18:58:34 UTC  

500 people asked by landline

2018-05-23 18:59:30 UTC  

about 2022

if Chuck Schumer retires and is replaced by a Roy Moore tier Dem, I can see us taking a seat in New York with a Scott Brown tier R in 2022

same with California and Illinois and Vermont and Connecticut and Maryland

Nevada and New Hampshire and Colorado should be competitive even without a Roy Moore tier Dem

2018-05-23 19:00:42 UTC  

@Pielover19 assuming Trump is POTUS in 2022, it'll be similar to 2018, which means that the environment favors the D's. However, like 2018, that doesn't guarantee a D victory in the same way that a D victory wasn't guaranteed in 2022

2018-05-23 19:00:53 UTC  

*in the same way a D victory wasn't guaranteed in 2002

2018-05-23 19:01:10 UTC  

I might not be so sure it's similar to 2018 depending on some circumstances

2018-05-23 19:01:52 UTC  

>BM literally spending most of xir energy, time, and focus on posting Democrat propaganda

2018-05-23 19:02:25 UTC  

@FLanon something tells me that Trump in his 2nd term would not compromise as much as in his 1st term

2018-05-23 19:02:33 UTC  

If we were to get a mandate congressionally this year followed by a victory in 2020, 2022's environment may be more favorable to Rs, however considering the map, it'll take a lot to get a net gain in the senate.

2018-05-23 19:02:39 UTC  

in the same way that Obama in his 2nd term was less conciliatory in comparison to his first term

2018-05-23 19:03:17 UTC  

also...2022 will be around the time people my age could be winning House seats, come to think of it

2018-05-23 19:03:50 UTC  

the minimum age for the House is 25, but the youngest one right now is Elise Stefanik at 33 (actually, I think Conor Lamb might be a few months younger)

2018-05-23 19:04:07 UTC  

I recall in 2008 a Republican named Aaron Schock won at age 27

2018-05-23 19:04:35 UTC  

Mine would have to be like 2024 or 2026 I think

2018-05-23 19:05:00 UTC  

at the earliest because I do have to start early in this day and age unlike certain people

2018-05-23 19:16:51 UTC  

I think the requirement for state legislature isn't as high

2018-05-23 19:17:15 UTC  

btw, I highly recommend volunteering with the Republican Party in your area this year though

2018-05-23 19:23:16 UTC  

also, speaking of 2022, let's talk about 2020

2018-05-23 19:25:33 UTC  

if the environment is favorable to a Trump re-election....

Ousting Doug Jones in Alabama seems effortless

taking that D seat in New Hampshire is not as easy, but definitely doable. Same thing with the seat in Michigan.

Minnesota should be about as hard as Michigan. Virginia could be around the same level.

2018-05-23 19:26:30 UTC  

in the same way that Democrats in 2012 generally benefited from having Obama at the top of the ballot, Republicans in 2020 will benefit from having Trump at the top of the ballot

2018-05-23 19:27:13 UTC  

if it's a Trump landslide year, I could see the R's taking those other solidly blue states as well, with Scott Brown tier candidates

2018-05-23 19:27:16 UTC  

We'll have to see how far it travels

2018-05-23 19:27:27 UTC  

how far what travels ?

2018-05-23 19:28:32 UTC  

Trump, depending on his performance, he could pave the way for Minnesota, Virginia, Oregon maybe.

2018-05-23 19:29:49 UTC  

It'll depend on 2018 to a large extent, productivity in Congress leading to Trump getting his promises passed would almost certainly secure reelection.

2018-05-23 19:32:58 UTC  

Obama and Trump are similar in many ways, like the fact that their base got pretty frustrated in their first year and a half, but one big difference between Obama and Trump is

Obama won in 2008 at a pretty high level of popularity, but there was nowhere to go but down, so it makes sense that he won by less in 2012

Trump won in 2016 in a very polarizing way, and his popularity was arguably low at the time, but that means there's nowhere to go but up

a huge reason why I'm so optimistic is the "normalization" phenomenon. You know how in the first days of the Trump admin, you had all these leftists screeching about refusing to 'normalize' Trump and how "this is NOT normal. I am literally shaking" ? Well, there's a good reason for them to be scared about that. The reason is because the millions of voters who sat home or voted Hillary or third party could easily view Trump as better than expected, which means that it's not so hard for Trump to win in 2020 at even greater margins

2018-05-23 19:33:32 UTC  

Guys, do you think it’s possible to repeal the 15th amendment?

2018-05-23 19:35:25 UTC  

it's technically possible in the same way that it's technically possible to repeal every other amendment

2018-05-23 19:35:40 UTC  

but the only scenario I see that happening in is if racial relations get to borderline civil war tier

2018-05-23 19:36:09 UTC  

and in that circumstance, we'll see actual civil war before a repeal of the 15th

2018-05-23 19:39:51 UTC  

14th is worse

2018-05-23 19:42:57 UTC  

Repealing the 15th is probably as hard as repealing the 13th.

2018-05-23 19:43:29 UTC  

You'll probably have a better time repealing the 26th or something.

2018-05-23 19:43:38 UTC  

And as FLanon said, the 14th is the worst.

2018-05-23 19:45:21 UTC  

It fucks up the entire country by not only adding an enumerated power for civil rights and giving the Congress the authority to combine it with its commerce authority and other such BS via the Necessary and Proper Clause, but the Supreme Court has fucked it up by making it effectively bind the federal and state levels of government to the same restrictions on power.

2018-05-23 19:46:08 UTC  

Just because the Second Amendment guarantees a federal right to own and use nukes and battleships doesn't mean that it was intended to preserve those rights for states--in one amazingly telling example.

2018-05-23 19:46:18 UTC  

But the theory of Trump being normalized could work out, he's definitely going to need to make some more presidential moves, not as much cucking as just doing stuff a president would do, just overall being more likable. Lot of ways to do it, he could get a dog, go to the world series, but it doesn't really cost him anything politically.

2018-05-23 19:46:22 UTC  

Another example is that states were originally allowed to establish and restrict religion.

2018-05-23 19:48:31 UTC  

And now that they've even made it so that liberal states can pass "rights" and the federal government can be forced to enforce them nationwide, the Fourteenth Amendment is operating in a means far from that which was originally intended.

2018-05-23 19:49:45 UTC  

One of the most hilarious examples of Fourteenth Amendment overreach was that SCOTUS held that the Fourth Amendment created a "right to privacy" which guaranteed married people the right to contraception, then ruled that because unmarried people were not receiving equal protection, the Fourteenth Amendment also applied to unmarried pepole.

2018-05-23 19:51:51 UTC  

NEW: Rep. Tom GARRETT -- a GOP freshman from Virginia -- is considering not seeking reelection and has abruptly parted ways with his chief of staff