Message from @FLanon

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2018-09-21 12:30:22 UTC  

@FLanon @Pielover19 its a copypasta from MPC

2018-09-21 12:30:39 UTC  

Also I'm not saying you can't criticize him

2018-09-21 12:31:45 UTC  

I'm saying that those criticisms are often unfounded, poorly thought out, based on an out of touch perspective, etc

2018-09-21 12:32:23 UTC  

Its not "cult behavior" to call it for what it is

2018-09-21 12:34:02 UTC  

Lol at this dumb persecution complex / "making poorly thought out criticisms makes me a special snowflake independent thinker and if you won't let me whine that means you're just a brainwashed Trump cultist" mentality

2018-09-21 12:36:08 UTC  

You don't have to be a president to criticize a president but...

2018-09-21 12:37:03 UTC  

It's undeniable that many of these criticisms of Trump from the right are from people who have no clue how politics, business, public relations, etc really work

2018-09-21 12:41:26 UTC  

You have fags like Button who think he should drop everything else to try to ram the Wall through... Despite the fact that it would be an incredibly risky gambit because you're not guaranteed to get the wall regardless, you're not spending your political capital on other important things, which means you risk spending a lot of time on something that could just fall flat, kinda like what happened to Obamacare. Meanwhile, you could focus on all the things that are actually achievable while keeping illegal immigration down through means that are in your control

2018-09-21 12:42:06 UTC  

Also those retarded sounding tweets do serve a purpose

2018-09-21 12:50:56 UTC  

Think of it this way

2018-09-21 12:51:02 UTC  

Its kinda like Hearts of Iron 4

2018-09-21 12:51:20 UTC  

You got a set amount of political influence to handle crises

2018-09-21 12:51:43 UTC  

Its best to save some for a rainy day

2018-09-21 12:52:00 UTC  

If it drops too low your nation is thrown into turmoil

2018-09-21 12:53:44 UTC  

@Kevin yeah, sort of

2018-09-21 12:54:19 UTC  

Immigration and the wall are hugely important, but... Look how much of a hassle nominating a center right judge to the SCOTUS is

2018-09-21 13:20:03 UTC  

It's not an "independent thinker" mentality. He's simply not managing his resources effectively. He has immense potential to rally the GOP to his side which he's not using, allowing the GOP to use him as their vehicle instead of the other way around is the antithesis of what the election was about. The point is that the stuff he can control, he's not doing effectively, and he has much more potential to really shape the GOP but isn't. He could have managed these elections around his platforms. The tweets, especially the witch hunt ones, are not serving their intended purpose. They make him look like he's guilty, in a lot of competitive districts, most people polled believe Trump has committed a crime while in office. He probably didn't, but he's doing a bad job at avoiding looking guilty. This is the point: he has to be held accountable for his actions, considering how key these next few years are, he has do be fulfilling the purpose of him being here or we've wasted our time.

2018-09-21 13:53:14 UTC  

"He has immense potential to rally the GOP to his side which he's not using, allowing the GOP to use him as their vehicle"

are you so sure of that

2018-09-21 13:53:22 UTC  

what do you mean by 'the GOP'

2018-09-21 13:53:45 UTC  

after all, many GOP incumbents in the congress were those who tried to undermine him in 2016 and still do

2018-09-21 14:09:21 UTC  

The GOP.

2018-09-21 14:09:36 UTC  

He could have made the contract and offered it to congressmen

2018-09-21 14:09:53 UTC  

He could have threatened their re-election chances if they didn't

2018-09-21 14:10:58 UTC  

He has so much power with the GOP electorate and could easily leverage that against the establishment in Congress.

2018-09-21 14:12:10 UTC  

Those people could have all been primaried if Trump wished, and with a plan to get Trump's legislation done, a much higher chance of challengers actually winning the seat.

2018-09-21 14:13:25 UTC  

He could be passing legislation that he wants to do, but instead is allowing the swamp to use him to pass only what they want, with Trump's policies placed in the backburner indefinitely.

2018-09-21 15:02:14 UTC  

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2018-09-21 15:05:59 UTC  

@Julien Blanc Trump has the GOP by the balls honestly

2018-09-21 15:06:20 UTC  

There is no movement behind McConnel or Ryan

2018-09-21 15:06:29 UTC  

Trump has a massive fucking movement

2018-09-21 15:06:40 UTC  

That type of shit can ALWAYS be used

2018-09-21 15:08:57 UTC  

Like Bernie could have done a shit ton with his energized movement but bent over for the establishment

2018-09-21 15:09:20 UTC  

People like McConnell are not loved by anyone really. They know it too

2018-09-21 15:09:29 UTC  

Trump is loved by a base of millions

2018-09-21 15:09:54 UTC  

He can tell people like McConnell to go fuck themselves if he wanted honestly

2018-09-21 15:11:41 UTC  

Trump deserves his personality cult, honestly. Everything looked like it was lost back in 2015. The tea party failed, and republicans seemed incapable of doing anything but winning side-elections and losing when it actually mattered. Then Trump swooped in from nowhere, and we saw hundreds of thousands of disaffected young men feel genuine hope for the first time in a long time. He shook the entire planet. It's hard to put into words just how much things have changed in the last 3 years. But he gave us tangible momentum to fight against the decline, and for that I am extremely grateful.

2018-09-21 15:19:26 UTC  

"He could have made the contract and offered it to congressmen
He could have threatened their re-election chances if they didn't
He has so much power with the GOP electorate and could easily leverage that against the establishment in Congress.
Those people could have all been primaried if Trump wished, and with a plan to get Trump's legislation done, a much higher chance of challengers actually winning the seat."

eh, I don't think he could do to every single GOP politician the same thing to Mark Sanford, Casey Cagle, and the like

2018-09-21 15:20:38 UTC  

"Everything looked like it was lost back in 2015. The tea party failed, and republicans seemed incapable of doing anything but winning side-elections and losing when it actually mattered. Then Trump swooped in from nowhere, and we saw hundreds of thousands of disaffected young men feel genuine hope for the first time in a long time. "

yeah, this is exactly why I feel the need to vehemently defend him against some of these blackpill fags. He and Pence could die at this very moment, but it would have all been worth it simply because he showed that our enemies are not invincible

2018-09-21 16:37:47 UTC  

For now

2018-09-21 16:38:27 UTC  

And even if he can't to *everyone* he can do it to pretty much nearly everyone. The GOP electorate love Trump, not necessarily the politicians.

2018-09-21 16:39:50 UTC  

The ones where threatening wouldn't have a big effect, like Curbelo, would we really care too much if they lose their seats?