I don’t want to piss away any hope of regaining the house in 2020 over a freaking wall

This whole Kavenaugh thing is actually infuriating me.

We have half of America who wants to allow accusations alone to be translated into an instant guilty verdict.

The amount of Red Herrings is sickening.

The low-level tricks.

Vice just posted a video in which Indians talked about their rape experiences, and then ended it off with a narrative about how Kavenaugh must be guilty.

How does `other people's rape experiences` affirm the guilt of a man in a seperate case?

And did she call the police?

No.

She called her local Democratic Party office.

And they strategically waited 62 days before they came foward.

Lying fuckers, and no, not the women neccacarily, but the fucking Dems.

Muh feelings.

Muh heart.

Muh sole.

Feelings don't constitute a justice system.

Feelings don't constitute economic policy.

Take your tears and lying vaginias and fuck right off.

"A freaking wall"

The fucking wall.

The fucking wall.

Trump could absolutely get the funding if he so pushed them.

They will never give us a wall without pressure.

We don't have time to dick around for 8 years to not get the wall at the end of it or any meaningful restriction on immigration.

If that's the case, then I couldn't give a flying fuck about the difference between 30 and 60 seats. The shutdown may be a gambit, but a chance of success is preferable to a guarantee of failure

You're also missing the fact that this shutdown would give us more, not less seats.

The wall will be fucking crazy for midterm turnout, it far outshines a government shutdown.

I don't see a lick of difference between 30 and 60 if the Republicans won't give it to us either way, they could lose 230 seats for all I give a fuck in that case.

No it won’t. The only people who care about the wall are already voting.

And can you imagine the kind of narrative the media can spin about Trump shutting down the government? They’d have a field day.

also could we even get a wall currently?

Not that a wall will do is much good in the long run. It’s symbolic.

you really think that between Flake, Corker, Collins, and Murkowski, that two of them wouldn't decide to torpedo it?

I think a wall is helpful in slowing down illicit crossings - but it shouldn't be the end all be all

ICE needs to be expanded, more border patrol agents

A border wall worked in Hungary, Berlin and Israel. It'll work but evidently the GOP has neither the political will or ideological unity. Pathetic excuse for a party.

Alas, none of us expected any different.

Gotta keep that military budget bloated for some foreign expeditions though, right?

It can be a deterrent, but only if you back it up with extensive policing and enforce the immigration laws brutally.
Our govt will never grown the backbone to go after illegals and deport them as they should.

I'm sure Israel will use the recent aid package far better than America would.

>The only people who care about the wall are already voting