Message from @Yellowhammer

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2018-09-26 22:40:00 UTC  

Hell, we’re burning billions of dollars yearly to finance every third world hell hole under the sun

2018-09-26 22:40:17 UTC  

It will make or break our country. We cannot do anything if we do not close the leak in our boat.

2018-09-26 22:40:22 UTC  

And a Wall is a permanent fixture.

2018-09-26 22:40:41 UTC  

The wall funding would lead to significantly higher midterm turnout as well

2018-09-26 22:41:09 UTC  

This would be an example of the key agenda being passed by Congress, Trump voters will be incredibly happy that they're doing what they elected him for.

2018-09-26 22:41:14 UTC  

A wall won’t do that. It isn’t like thousands of illegal immigrants don’t climb over or dig under existing fencing and walls yearly

2018-09-26 22:41:20 UTC  

Are you stupid?

2018-09-26 22:41:31 UTC  

Do you even know how border walls work?

2018-09-26 22:41:57 UTC  

We need to actually deport everyone. Every last illegal, none of them should stay. I

2018-09-26 22:42:26 UTC  

These walls work.

2018-09-26 22:42:42 UTC  

And they ensure that deportations are permanent and block re-entry.

2018-09-26 22:43:39 UTC  

They can be helpful if they joined with other effective methods such as tight patrolling of the border, but throwing up a wall isn’t going to just fix our immigration issues magically

2018-09-26 22:44:03 UTC  

It is the largest part.

2018-09-26 22:44:23 UTC  

The most immediate effect is electorally, the symbolism of it is key.

2018-09-26 22:44:31 UTC  

It is permanent, as Lex said.

2018-09-26 22:44:33 UTC  

A Wall will significantly reduce entry EVEN IF some people get through.

2018-09-26 22:44:53 UTC  

I have stats on it but I'm on my phone rn.

2018-09-26 22:45:24 UTC  

In every single primary state Trump ran in, immigration beat every single other issue in importance to the voters.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/494640665737560065/voters.png

2018-09-26 22:45:31 UTC  

This will help us out much more than some tax cut.

2018-09-26 22:45:35 UTC  

Half of illegal immigrants never even crossed the border, they’re visa overstays

2018-09-26 22:46:06 UTC  

So?

2018-09-26 22:46:17 UTC  

You still have the other half crossing in illegally.

2018-09-26 22:46:21 UTC  

No it won’t. Taxes effect the average American a thousand times more than Mexicans walking across the border a thousand miles away.

2018-09-26 22:46:24 UTC  

WHO GIVES A SHIT? That's 11 million people at the very least.

2018-09-26 22:46:37 UTC  

People can fund ICE whenever they wish to do that

2018-09-26 22:46:52 UTC  

@Yellowhammer "No it won’t. The only people who care about the wall are already voting."

that's hard to say. There haven't been any studies/research done on the right-wing voters who might be staying home. We had a guy a while back named Button Mash who claimed he'd stay home because there wasn't a wall, though he could be an extreme outlier, which wouldn't surprise me because the guy is an exceptional autist

2018-09-26 22:47:13 UTC  

But the wall is a permanent standing fixture. It defines, "this is Mexico, and this is the United States" and it keeps people who want to cross at bay.

2018-09-26 22:47:39 UTC  

if you look at all these special elections, there are large swaths of GOP voters who stayed home

and if you assume polling is accurate, there are a bunch of 'Unlikely' voters who probably lean GOP who aren't sampled in the polls because they don't claim they're likely voters

2018-09-26 22:47:47 UTC  

The southern border is also a heavy drug corridor, most of our heroin in the US originates from there.

2018-09-26 22:47:59 UTC  

We absolutely could raise our enthusiasm.

2018-09-26 22:48:10 UTC  

Fuck taxes. Mexicans have shifted Texas into a tossup, massively increased crime, invariably exist as a fiscal sink and are massively shifting your national culture.

2018-09-26 22:48:29 UTC  

Your libertarian platitudes don't answer the questions of the age.

2018-09-26 22:49:04 UTC  

I don't believe in high taxes but culture is an existential factor m

2018-09-26 22:49:31 UTC  

America survived FDR. It won't survive the brown invasion.

2018-09-26 22:49:45 UTC  

It'll alter the nation you know forever.

2018-09-26 22:50:20 UTC  

And thus also its values. Is Theseus' ship the same ship if you replace all of its parts?

2018-09-26 22:51:07 UTC  

No. It's a different ship deeply averse to anything remotely libertarian.

2018-09-26 23:06:28 UTC  

Mexicans are not making Texas D. It’s college educated white suburban cucks

2018-09-26 23:06:42 UTC  

That’s where most of the swing towards the Dems is taking place

2018-09-26 23:06:53 UTC  

It's both.