fair enough, but at no point should water vapor look like water exactly, unless it's, well, water

it is water

and if you look thru enough it will block your view

well it's water vapor, not water liquid

although they are similar, the vapor means the particles are more spread out

its like trying to look at something thru the rain

you look thru enough of it and that too will block your view

But that's actually liquid water. If you look through enough of anything it will block your view.

pretty much

Of course. *But*

Stacking water vapor on top of water vapor doesn't make it look like liquid water

yes, its like looking through layers of water

Atmosphere ..for rough "round" numbers, ..is 20% OXY and 80% Nitrogen , roughly

Well, no, it's not. Water vapor does not look like water

pretty much

your missing the point, your ship experiment proves the earth is flat, not round

How?

Here's another thing for you to look at Firefly
and SPEED IT UP (the footage)
https://youtu.be/vj9rXJPpuUw?t=42

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.another thing for you to look into .... "fata morgana"

Okay, watching now

I know what that is

https://www.farmersalmanac.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ship-fatamorgana-600x319.jpg

this is fata morgana

it's a superior mirage

ok, sure, mr Chicago Weatherman

uhm ..itd be inverted / upside down, if that were the case

```Passing through the temperature inversion, the light rays are bent down, and so the image appears above the true object, hence the name superior```

not necessarily

i have pics like that too, so what lol

woah, that's extreme! I like it tbh

that looks like a bad copy past job

but, i also have _This_ ...

this still only shows ships being shown *above* the horizon due to the mirage, not below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tflhWwoqWAw

Please don't change the subject

We're discussing the ship

not the sun

you see how the light rays are on a diagonal, that is because of a close sun, 3,400 miles away. light wouldn't be coming in that direction if the sun was further out

the "atmosphere" actis as a lens, and atmospherica refraction/magnification etc, ...will make things seemingly "lower" into the distance

Oh? Can I have a diagram please, Mike? It helps me understand