Message from @waitress

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2019-03-19 17:59:52 UTC  

in addition it's not even the gravity curving light. it's the curvature of space-time caused by the gravity well of an object with mass

2019-03-19 18:00:38 UTC  

If you had an experiment that proved the earth was moving, you could disprove relativity.

2019-03-19 18:00:56 UTC  

Prove general relativity

2019-03-19 18:01:05 UTC  

Thats your new project

2019-03-19 18:01:37 UTC  

so general relativity has been thoroughly proven many times hence i ask *you* to disprove it

2019-03-19 18:01:41 UTC  

this is very interesting to read

2019-03-19 18:01:48 UTC  

most of the experiments proving it were designed to disprove it so please

2019-03-19 18:01:50 UTC  

disprove it

2019-03-19 18:02:27 UTC  

There is no experiment proving it

2019-03-19 18:02:35 UTC  

Thats why its still a theory

2019-03-19 18:03:05 UTC  

Its science. Science isnt fact. Its a method

2019-03-19 18:03:19 UTC  

so the observation of light being curved in curved space-time being proven during a solar eclipse wasn't an experiment that proved it?

2019-03-19 18:03:32 UTC  

Show me the scientific method used to prove general relativity

2019-03-19 18:03:53 UTC  

@Koro observation doesnt prove causation

2019-03-19 18:04:07 UTC  

so do u want the wiki link or papers because with the level of intelligence you're displaying suggest that the wiki is the more appropriate

2019-03-19 18:04:13 UTC  

ok so explain other causes

2019-03-19 18:04:24 UTC  

You want to be banned?

2019-03-19 18:04:39 UTC  

do u want to listen to reason?

2019-03-19 18:04:51 UTC  

You have no reasoning

2019-03-19 18:04:54 UTC  

Just beliefs

2019-03-19 18:09:33 UTC  

I think it sounds more like reasoning than beliefs, but thats just me. it seems like koro is the only one trying to have a discussion and youre just constantly asking them to 'prove it' rather than giving your input. just something i noticed

2019-03-19 18:10:24 UTC  

ok so GTR hasn't been disproven. it was ammended by stephen hawking more recently as GTR was designed for a static universe. this is a theory that is over a century old and hasn't been disproven. every experiment that was designed to flaw it failed. gravitational lensing while yeah observation is not causation what else could be a factor here? it is precisely calculated with GTR suggesting that it is the factor of curved space-time. the equivalence principle also proves this (give it a quick search as it's a bit of a pain to explain). ether was a concept that would've flawed GTR but lo and behold it didn't so now provide me with anything that disproves GTR. it has withstood a century of people attempting to disprove it with everything they could think of and and yet it didn't manage to so if you can good luck

2019-03-19 18:25:35 UTC  

@waitress how do you disprove something thats not been proven? (The warping of space-time)

No scientist has ever proven gravitational lensing and every scientist admits it cant be observed on earth. Koro made the claim it can be. Asking for proof is normal in that instance. Its a bold claim.

He also claims that c02 levels above. 04 percent gave him cognitive impairment. Saying he performed an experiment. Asking for proof of this is also normal as his claim is bold and goes against measured known limitations of co2 for humans.

2019-03-19 18:26:42 UTC  

@Citizen Z I am contrary to your position, but I agree with you that @Koro is not providing either good arguments or solid evidence.

2019-03-19 18:27:24 UTC  

I just think there should be more talking or more research rather than a 'prove it' after everything, if that makes sense.

2019-03-19 18:29:33 UTC  

So as not to appear hypocritical, I'll provide this for a possible piece of evidence for general relativity. https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=137628

2019-03-19 18:30:15 UTC  

It's recent, and it was performed on earth without any reliance on the presupposition of earth's roundness.

2019-03-19 18:33:50 UTC  

.gov great

2019-03-19 18:34:10 UTC  

I can try and find the actual findings report, but still.

2019-03-19 18:34:30 UTC  

Ligo is a big sagnac experiment

2019-03-19 18:35:56 UTC  

If that's so, wouldn't that imply that at least part of the mile long laser tube is moving?

2019-03-19 18:37:29 UTC  

For how complicated ligo is said to be, i dont think it can be trusted nor will it ever be verifiable

2019-03-19 18:38:35 UTC  

Well, what is your standard of evidence then?

2019-03-19 18:38:42 UTC  
2019-03-19 18:38:52 UTC  

Good video

2019-03-19 18:39:36 UTC  

There is a better one that goes deep into the technical stuff

2019-03-19 18:39:57 UTC  

Its not something that is verifiable

2019-03-19 18:40:08 UTC  

Think about it

2019-03-19 18:40:37 UTC  

If gravity was proven. Why spend that much money on ligo

2019-03-19 18:41:30 UTC  

Sagnac tubes move?

2019-03-19 18:41:53 UTC